Bits & Pieces: Florida vs LSU

GatorScotty

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To be fair...

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... that is not true...LSU has more talent than us. This is actually the first win this season against a team with more talent. LSU is at 8 and we are at 12 in the composite rankings. Tenn and scUM are the two teams that beat us that are ranked lower than us on the composite. All other wins/losses followed the composite rankings.
I was equating the team with talent and the fact we beat them, makes me think we have more talent. I don't pay attention to that composite ranking list because we could have the #1 ranked recruiting classes 3 years running and we'd still be a losing team, due to our coaching staff. Hence my Zooker reference in the recruiting threat earlier. But your point is faaaaiiirrrrrrr...
 

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... that is not true...LSU has more talent than us
He's right ya know.

I think it's also the first time that Shortbus has won a game vs a more talented team. The other "big wins" against Utah and Tinerc had less talent, far less in the case of Utah.
 

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Badger and Dike don’t get enough love. Those dudes have been clutch all year.
And every damn catch is in traffic, it seems. I just wish we had some competent playcalling. Imagine if we sometimes gave them some easy catches.
 

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Funny how you get bitch slapped down 2 weeks ago and disappear in your hole. Your boss must have you held hostage. Either you support Billy and jerk him off daily or you'll lose your job.

Clearly you're showing your "retard" this morning and just spewing your dyck sucker with no facts. Looping me in with others that stated UCF would beat us shows you're an idiot, considering I didn't say that about UCF. And what I said about MSU is they're rushing attack sliced and diced us. Tennessee did embarrass us...they attempted to hand the game to us on a silver platter, and your daddy, that you gargle his semen in your mouth a few times a day
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No, he was 4 star, and a high one.
Knijeah Harris? Youre drunk on radiator drippings, old man.

He is the only competent OL that Retard has landed.
I thought this too, and maybe it was one where some of us saw the tape and truly believed he was underrated so we gave him more props. But, per On3's industry list, he was not nationally ranked by any of Rivals, On3 or 247. Only ESPN had him as a 4 star. Knijeah Harris - Florida Gators - Interior Offensive Line

Rivals had him the lowest ranked of any of the recruiting sites. Who knew?
 

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That's rich coming from the dude that hides in a hole after each loss, instead of simply coming out and admitting that "Billy lost us that game..." or "we played poorly and we definitely don't have SEC caliber depth to compete...". But you can't do that because you're a hypocrite and you're not a man or mature enough to simply admit both sides of a story.
Ok, so what of if I was depressed? It was a terrible loss and yes, I was very disappointed, ofc. We weren’t at full strength offensively and games like that happen when your proverbial back is against the wall. But the team responded accordingly with their leader back in the ranks and went out and got a good win against a good team. Both sides of the line played great and that’s something all of us were concerned about heading into the season. I’ll eat crow for the loss(god I feel like I’m talking to a rival fan rn) if you’ll reciprocate and give credit for a hard fought win. Ball’s in your court big boy. Let’s see if you’ve got the gumption to set the personal insults aside and give credit where credit’s due.
 

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Ok, so what of if I was depressed? It was a terrible loss and yes, I was very disappointed, ofc. We weren’t at full strength offensively and games like that happen when your proverbial back is against the wall. But the team responded accordingly with their leader back in the ranks and went out and got a good win against a good team. Both sides of the line played great and that’s something all of us were concerned about heading into the season. I’ll eat crow for the loss(god I feel like I’m talking to a rival fan rn) if you’ll reciprocate and give credit for a hard fought win. Ball’s in your court big boy. Let’s see if you’ve got the gumption to set the personal insults aside and give credit where credit’s due.
Deep, how much is the disability check the govt. sends you monthly for being an idiot?

Let's go to the tape Bob:
Deepwater said:
"...Lane still your boy? I know you love the taste of his balls, but I ask you, can he bring a winner to the Swamp? I honestly don’t think so but I’m sure you disagree. Fire away big boy, let the hate flow."

So you ask last night if I have the gumption to set the personal insults aside, but you neglect to acknowledge your personal insults prior as you referenced me loving the taste of Lane's balls. So are you simply forgetful or are you just a douche' that thinks he can sling, but is too p*ssy to take it or are you like a Democrat, someone that is a hypocrite and has double standards? Moral of the story Deep is if you want to have an adult and mature convo, don't start said convos with something insulting or flat out stupid and then maybe you won't be treated as retarded or as a homo that eats Billy's ass.

As for you and your hiding in a "deep" hole when we lose, you get zero respect on this board because you cannot bring yourself to admit realities of our program, the coaching staff, team or post-game analysis. But when we win, you spew stupidity. First, we won Saturday. Golf clap. Why do I discount the win? Because people here and in the media act like we won the MF'ing Super Bowl, but that's how pathetically far our program has dropped these past 3 seasons. A win over an average team is celebrated like it's 1999. We got killed in TOP. Killed in offensive stats. Spent way too much time on the field defensively. 1st series we had 3 penalties. Blah, blah, blah. Yes, I'm happy we won, but Billy should win games against teams below our level. Hence his horrid 3 yr record at UF. Do you know that if Billy wins Saturday, it will be the FIRST 2-game winning streak against winning teams, IN HIS 3 SEASONS AT FLORIDA. Think about that. Did our offense play balls out the other night? Hell yeah and it was great to see. Grantham still haunts me with his shytty play calling. But our offense only did 3 things right the other night. 2 long passes to the goal line that scored TD's and the long TD run by Baugh. DJ is a generational talent, but he won't ever reach his maximum or even average potential with the poor situational football play-calling that he's being fed by your lover Billy.

I do not reward or applaud average or mediocrity and that's our program currently. We've all experienced the highest of the highs with this program going back 30+ years so these 3 yrs and this season do not warrant celebrating, even if we win out. Because nothing Billy has done in his 3 yrs here has been successful or rewarding, outside of getting DJ to commit. And Billy isn't the one to help lead and direct DJ and our team to the top of the mountain and the longer we wait to change that leadership person, the longer we all have to deal with the roller coaster of good and horrible.
 

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Our offense played well for 2 of 4 qtrs. The other 2 it was turtle up and punt Napier specials nearly every possession. And we likely lose if not for multiple dropped interceptions thrown directly into the linebackers hands.
 

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To be fair...

to be fair letterkenny problems GIF


... that is not true...LSU has more talent than us. This is actually the first win this season against a team with more talent. LSU is at 8 and we are at 12 in the composite rankings. Tenn and scUM are the two teams that beat us that are ranked lower than us on the composite. All other wins/losses followed the composite rankings.
There are major limitations to these comparisons you take as gospel. First of all the rankings of players who never played in the game don’t mean anything. And scUM had a lot more talent than us at QB which is why they won in a blowout and a lot more important than comparing how many 4 stars are on the bench. It’s obviously an objective measurement but flawed like any other single metric trying to compare teams.
 

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and a lot more important than comparing how many 4 stars are on the bench.
You can win a game with 22, but you can't win a season without plenty of extra talent sitting on the bench at the start of the season.
 

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There are major limitations to these comparisons you take as gospel. First of all the rankings of players who never played in the game don’t mean anything. And scUM had a lot more talent than us at QB which is why they won in a blowout and a lot more important than comparing how many 4 stars are on the bench. It’s obviously an objective measurement but flawed like any other single metric trying to compare teams.
Major? yeeeeaa...no. That is a stretch. Considerations...yes. There are flaws in the recruiting rankings which translate into composite team rankings also being flawed since the small little nuances of just showing the total number of 4* and 5* one team has compared to another team is lost in the aggregate. A really high 4* is no where near being a high 3* yet a low 4* is pretty much just a high 3*. That nuance gets lost in the sauce when you just throw out a comparison of teams 4 and 5* count. I get that...and totally agree. That measurement is subjective...not objective...you still gotta play the games and that is the objective part which shows preparation, development and strategy. That is why scUM whoop us, not because of Ward. He had a lot to do with that win, but our offensive strategy of running the same stale plays over and over to the point where opposing DCs know exactly what to prepare for had a bigger part in our loss. A confused out of synch defensive strategy where players and coaches aren't speaking the same language...and so on. Dont hate on roster talent evaluations because of that...that is just silly and wrong...the composite team talent isn't gospel, the field is gospel, but the composite can give you a good sense of how everything else should be going and a big reason why we are all fed up with this staff. From what I have seen this season, we abso-fuggin-lutely do have right around the 12th talented team but what is holding that back is our coaching staff.
 

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I thought this too, and maybe it was one where some of us saw the tape and truly believed he was underrated so we gave him more props. But, per On3's industry list, he was not nationally ranked by any of Rivals, On3 or 247. Only ESPN had him as a 4 star. Knijeah Harris - Florida Gators - Interior Offensive Line

Rivals had him the lowest ranked of any of the recruiting sites. Who knew?
I knew and said so. But I call foul. The board has an agreement not to confuse swonkey with facts.
If you want to blow your mind, go to the 247 UF list for 2023 and observe how much our lower ranked recruits from that year have produced for the Gators compared to the higher ranked recruits from that year.
I know, "injuries, Billy's coaching, Yada, Yada, yada,..."
 

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I knew and said so. But I call foul. The board has an agreement not to confuse swonkey with facts.
If you want to blow your mind, go to the 247 UF list for 2023 and observe how much our lower ranked recruits from that year have produced for the Gators compared to the higher ranked recruits from that year.
I know, "injuries, Billy's coaching, Yada, Yada, yada,..."

Just to be clear, Harris was at IMG. You don’t get to IMG by being overlooked or undervalued. Yes, I will agree that he has probably exceeded his three star ranking, but to be fair, it’s been stated manly times in this board(yes even by Law) that solid 3* OL players are fine if they’re developed. It’s nothing like the skill positions in that regard. But again, good to see KH doing well.
 

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Just to be clear, Harris was at IMG. You don’t get to IMG by being overlooked or undervalued. Yes, I will agree that he has probably exceeded his three star ranking, but to be fair, it’s been stated manly times in this board(yes even by Law) that solid 3* OL players are fine if they’re developed. It’s nothing like the skill positions in that regard. But again, good to see KH doing well.
Harris was at IMG and he was (greatly) undervalued. Press reports back in the day even pointed out that he stuffed Reuben Bain to the point that Bain switched to the other side of the line where he fared much better against a much higher rated offensive lineman.
But you miss the point, which is not swonkey's varying positions on stars and linemen, etc. The point is that once Donkey stopped trashing him and decided to give him props, he declared him a 4 star. When corrected, he doubled down on his mistake and tossed a few invectives into the discussion.
Finally, I note that first durty and now southflorida have felt the need to come to poor widdle swonkey's defense? Really? If swonkey can't fight his on wars, maybe he shouldn't initiate them. Anyway, thanks for your contribution, such as it was.
 

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Just to be clear, Harris was at IMG. You don’t get to IMG by being overlooked or undervalued. Yes, I will agree that he has probably exceeded his three star ranking, but to be fair, it’s been stated manly times in this board(yes even by Law) that solid 3* OL players are fine if they’re developed. It’s nothing like the skill positions in that regard. But again, good to see KH doing well.

If you look at the rivals page he was at number 58 as a sophomore. Not really sure what happened after that I wonder if he was hurt or something.

I remembered him as a big fish and one of our early few from IMG with many said that we would never be able to recruit from there.

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"2021: MaxPreps Junior All-American second-team selection. Starter along the OL for a Bradenton (Fla.) IMG Acadmey program that went 9-1 playing a national schedule. Helped pave the way for Penn State RB signee Kaytron Allen and keep FSU QB signee AJ Duffy clean.

2020: Transferred into IMG Academy for sophomore season from St. Lucie (Fla.) West Centennial where he started as a freshman. Worked primarily at LG for an Ascenders team that went 8-0.

Again 2022 is missing for some reason. Did he get hurt his senior year? I just don't remember.

247 summary is "A big, burly interior offensive line prospect whose strengths seem fit for a power-based rushing attack. Has already logged plenty of miles on the odometer having started as a freshman at St. Lucie West Centennial before occupying the starting left guard spot at IMG Academy as both a sophomore and junior. At his best when he can shoot out of his stance and get into pull-blocking duties. Effective at hitting targets on the move and is a rather aggressive drive blocker. Hasn’t really been asked to pass protect all that much the past two seasons, but understands how to set up for combat and can win with a somewhat accurate punch. "

I guess they didnt dig his pass blocking enough and they are entranced with lightweight, athletic ballerina type OTs especially.

So, again you've had weeks too search the archives to find a bad thing I ever said about K Harris.

I'll take another six or eight of KH, and I'm not surprised that he is the only Retard OL recruit doing well.

Scrap the soccer players from Europe though.
 

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