Bits & Pieces: Florida vs Tennessee

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I'm a huge fan of the outside zone run play to the short side of the field, that never works but we try over, and over, and over, and over again...

It works one in a hundred. I joke about it in the stadium every week. What was the one time this year? The Miami TD....oh just saw outside zone, not outside run to short side. Either way, overall point about always running to the short side stands.
Kid whose dad I might've told to stop bl*wing Billy and pointed out we did have 4* receivers when he tried defending Billy later decided to have his dad's honor and tell me an outside run to the short side of the field wasn't successful because of the OL. Imagine his shock when I pointed to the replay board and no OL missed a block and A&M just played our tendency. Imagine my multiple jokes about how you don't blame an OL when they don't miss a block.
 

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The basics are "blocking" and "tackling".... I know those things when I see them, or, more importantly, when I do NOT see them! :lol:
It's been a looooong time since we Gator fans have seen those things. I see it with other teams, I get depressed and stop watching and turn to these instructional videos

 

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I honestly dont understand how people watch football but dont even understand the basics of what is going on.

I do. Only because most weeks I am around a new cast of characters and slowly they have the same characteristics:
Coach=Good Critique of Anything other than Player Error=Bad
O: Ball go forward=Good Not go forward=Bad
Pass: Anywhere near receiver=fault of receiver Nowhere near receiver=fault of QB
Run: Forward=Good Not go forward=OL
D: Ball go forward=Bad Ball not go forward=Good
DB's 10 yards off allowing short passing= DB's lining up wrong, no coach would coach that
Great Pass where DB blitz came from= DB's fault for not getting home on 20 yard sprint
Fumble Recovery=Amazing Defensive Play and Player (no matter what), including high snaps, Nico's fumble Saturday, etc. Result, not cause is the focus (that is not saying result isn't always good)
Interception= Amazing Defensive Play and Player (no matter what), literally Donovan Stiner's interception in 2019 against Auburn had someone tell me I should feel bad about bashing his issues, he literally was standing lost in the endzone and ball came right to him. This is different to Davis's INT where he made a play on the ball.

I think that is a brief explanation of how based on my experiences.
 

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After motioning the slot away from that side so the Apex has nothing to do but tackle the tailback.

I don't know about this Apex stuff, but my thought is you are bringing another potential tackler into the box where we are trying to run and NO ONE DESIGNED TO BLOCK HIM!!! Even if he doesn't make the tackle, its another body inside the box (insert obligatory "your mom" joke here) to navigate around.

The "spread" is so successful not because of magic plays or anything else, its 4 wide for a reason and gets defenders defending the whole field. So let's do something different. Let's bunch everyone up and run inside/outside zone into 20 bodies. We have a 53 yard wide field, so lets play football inside of a phone booth.

Now passing from a bunch formation is cool because the defense has a harder time reading the routes but it does leave you open for a wacky blitz scheme because everyone starts in close.

When I coached, when a slot went in motion, I would roll the FS down to the motion guy and either roll the original cb back to the FS spot or he would follow (giving the QB the impression of man coverage), and then blitz him off the edge, which turns the coverage to zero (man). Doing this overloads one side and screws up their presnap read and who the RB is supposed to pick up.

On pass blocking plays, with 5 linemen, a QB, a RB, there is typically 6 defenders. Whichever side the RB is going (play action pass), the RB, G, and T on that side have the DT, DE, and LB to that side. The opposite side, the C, G, and T have the DT, DE, and LB to that side. Either side the CB came from, screwed up their scheme.

What do we do? We have the CB run back and forth following the motion like a lost puppy, often trailing, so if they give it to the motion, he has a 5 yard running head start.
 

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It works one in a hundred. I joke about it in the stadium every week. What was the one time this year? The Miami TD....oh just saw outside zone, not outside run to short side. Either way, overall point about always running to the short side stands.
Kid whose dad I might've told to stop bl*wing Billy and pointed out we did have 4* receivers when he tried defending Billy later decided to have his dad's honor and tell me an outside run to the short side of the field wasn't successful because of the OL. Imagine his shock when I pointed to the replay board and no OL missed a block and A&M just played our tendency. Imagine my multiple jokes about how you don't blame an OL when they don't miss a block.

Sometimes when the OL misses a block, its not the OL fault. Defenses scout our O which is not hard, so if I know on 2nd down and anything less than 15, we are running the ball. If it is this formation, the O likes this play, so I may cheat my LB 1-2 yards to where I think the play is going. No OL is going to make that play because he can't get there and the LB is cheating downhill. That is why you have to be unpredictable. Sometimes the O wins, but playing the odds, like Vegas, the house never loses.

I only watch the games once. Its all I can stomach. If I was an opposing DC, I would be right giddy watching our tape.

We have good players. Mertz is a damn good QB, just hamstrung with play calling. DJ is a program changer and is the most impressive passer I have seen as a true freshman since Leak. Kid is special. But you can't call a Mertz offense with a DJ QB and vice versa.
 

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I don't know about this Apex stuff, but my thought is you are bringing another potential tackler into the box where we are trying to run and NO ONE DESIGNED TO BLOCK HIM!!! Even if he doesn't make the tackle, its another body inside the box (insert obligatory "your mom" joke here) to navigate around.

The "spread" is so successful not because of magic plays or anything else, its 4 wide for a reason and gets defenders defending the whole field. So let's do something different. Let's bunch everyone up and run inside/outside zone into 20 bodies. We have a 53 yard wide field, so lets play football inside of a phone booth.

Now passing from a bunch formation is cool because the defense has a harder time reading the routes but it does leave you open for a wacky blitz scheme because everyone starts in close.

When I coached, when a slot went in motion, I would roll the FS down to the motion guy and either roll the original cb back to the FS spot or he would follow (giving the QB the impression of man coverage), and then blitz him off the edge, which turns the coverage to zero (man). Doing this overloads one side and screws up their presnap read and who the RB is supposed to pick up.

On pass blocking plays, with 5 linemen, a QB, a RB, there is typically 6 defenders. Whichever side the RB is going (play action pass), the RB, G, and T on that side have the DT, DE, and LB to that side. The opposite side, the C, G, and T have the DT, DE, and LB to that side. Either side the CB came from, screwed up their scheme.

What do we do? We have the CB run back and forth following the motion like a lost puppy, often trailing, so if they give it to the motion, he has a 5 yard running head start.
Also true of your mom's "spread"...

Careful buddy... you identified the first potential land mine, then got lazy and skipped right into that one! :lol:
 

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Sounds like Graham is out for the year.
 

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Ky will bring some heat on the young freshman , hope Napier is smart enough to plan for that.
Cracking Up Lol GIF
 

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