California, Florida sign law to allow college athletes to get paid

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    Yeah, Saw a guy on Finebaum who said that this will take down college athletics as we know it. Thanx Kalifornia.
     
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        NCAA will kick them out. Another ill-conceived California initiative.

        Its like their energy sector. Sounds great on paper until you consider they have to buy power from other states to meet their base load electricity. And that electricity is produced by coal/nuclear.
         
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          He said other states (NY of course) were going to do the same thing. Even distribute the wealth from all public universities to pay all athletes.
           
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          NCAA may not have authority. It would likely end up in the hands of the liberal socialists in congress.
           
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            It's funny. With every new change that was not only "absolutely necessary" but painted as something that would ultimately improve college football--targeting suspensions, transfer portal, new RS rule, etc--there have been unintended consequences that rear their ugly heads every season, even every week, leaving people amazed that this slippery slope is suddenly backfiring. And yet, we just keep doubling down.
             
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              Perhaps some of the GCMB legal experts can weigh in, but I don't see how this changes anything until a bunch more states have done something similar. For one thing, while this bill allows for college athletes to be paid in Cali, are there any states with laws that prohibit it? From what I can tell, it is only the regulations that go along with membership in the NCAA that prohibit it. However, isn't the NCAA an organization that colleges have voluntarily joined? So unless enough states (and it would have to be the right states) do something similar, and thus push/force their respective state universities to leave the NCAA, or threaten it in order to force the NCAA to change, how can it be meaningful? Am I missing something?
               
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                A lot of people will rush to defend this without understanding that literally the only value this product has is the tie to the institutions. That's why semi-pro leagues all fold eventually. Even if the quality of play declined people would still watch college football because of the tie to the college.

                Let the ones that think they can command a wage start a semipro league and see how long that lasts. The free college, books, housing, food, training, publicity and a travel allowance (based on where the kid lives) are more than fair for what their labor is worth without the college branding - which is essentially nothing. The option to join one of those leagues has always existed for these young men. If it was a viable option, more of them would have done it.

                And before anyone starting having a meltdown about coach compensation, I agree they are overpaid - but that's a market function. There are a lot fewer coaches that can do what is expected of them at this level then there are guys who can run with, throw or catch a football.
                 
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                  Hell ya, its about time. Pay them!
                   
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                    "The Fair Pay to Play Act allows college athletes in California to sign endorsement deals; earn compensation based on the usage of their name, image and likeness; and sign all types of licensing contracts that would allow them to earn money."

                    Can you imagine if this spreads and the big dogs are allowed? The Bamas of the world will be able to openly promise the best recruits that they will earn millions in endorsements while in college.
                     
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                      Players can go to the highest bidder. Not a good thing in any way, shape or form. The NCAA could try to exclude Cali but other states are likely to follow suit. And not just the gay states like NY. Think of any state with only one major football powerhouse.
                       
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                        The NCAA needs to get ahead of this and propose paying the athletes for the Power five conference teams.
                         
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                          Can of worms. If you pay football players you have to pay girls soccer to. Very few athletic departments operate in the black. Where does the money come from to distribute, Bernie?
                           
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                            Also, is this pay in addition to the roughly 350k value they already receive? And if a 5* player turns out to be a bust, is he just cut like a professional player? How about a kid like Robinson or some of these kids who have major injuries in HS but colleges honor their commitment and scholarship? That has to go away at this point.

                            It’s incredible that we can simultaneously have a conversation about the extreme student loan debt problem in this country, and in the same breath insist that a full ride scholarship isn’t enough and athletes need compensation on top of that.
                             
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                              It doesn’t matter. It feels good to sign this. Someone else will figure out the details. Or college athletics will become insolvent. Either way - yay?!?
                               
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                                I guess having your housing, food and education paid for isn't enough...
                                 
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                                  The should establish a trust fund that for all scholarship players on the Power 5 teams. Fund could only be accessible after a period of time and could only be used for educational expenses or other reasonable items. The inequality of what the institutions are extracting from the athletes is way out of balance. Placing funds in trusts should mitigate concerns of having to pay other programs
                                   
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                                    No it isnt
                                     
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                                      It would be for socialists but, as always with progressives, its never enough. Have to take down the man!
                                       
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