California, Florida sign law to allow college athletes to get paid

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Step 1: Call something a "crisis."
Step 2: Pass a childishly labeled and impossible to enforce law with no regulatory directive and no consideration for unintended consequences.
Step 3: Give crowing, self-praising speeches about your "accomplishment." Listen to the sycophants you've surrounded yourself with sing psalms of praise as the chaos you've created with your new law unfolds around you.
Step 4: Repeat.

Is there any question at this point in time how desperately we need term-limits at every level of government?
 

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The NCAA should just tell any team that allows their players to get paid that they can't compete in any NCAA sponsored events such as bowl games, post-season tournaments, etc. AFAIK its never been against any law to get paid for doing something. Playing NCAA sports isn't a human right, they have the right to make their own rules and enforce them. Don't like it? Start your own league. Let the Cali teams play for the championship of California. Whoopee.
 

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This. I'm glad to have lived when I did because I got to see a lot of things before they went to shyt. College football being one of them. The notion of scholar-athletes was always thin but just substantive enough to make college football at least feel fair. Remember that it's supposed to be amateur athletics. Once players can make money off of their likeness, etc then players will just end up wherever they can get the most money. And it will flow down to every player not just the studs. Alabama boosters will gladly pay $100,000 for the autographs of every 5* in the country. Whoever can pay the most will have the best team. College football will be ruined.

This just starts to stink of corruption. And I wonder if many schools will just say no athletic scholarships similar to the Ivy League.
 

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At bare minimum, I would make any endorsements go into a trust fund to get paid once the athlete graduates. If he doesn't graduate in so many years, the money goes to other players at that school.
 

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This just starts to stink of corruption. And I wonder if many schools will just say no athletic scholarships similar to the Ivy League.
Or kick most of the nonrevenue sports to club status.
 

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It's bad enough losing because you are out recruited. I will not tolerate losing because we are outspent. That's how the Yankees dominated baseball for many years. The upshot is I will stop watching. I believe a lot of people will stop watching. Those billions of dollars in TV revenue will dwindle. People won't care about college athlete endorsements and, except for a few exceptional players, they won't be worth much.

This has nothing to do with socialism and free markets. It has to do with amateurism. If college students want to make money they should try to go pro. The three-year rule is not fair. Like basketball, let students enter the NFL draft whenever they want. Most will suffer the consequences.
 

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The NCAA should just tell any team that allows their players to get paid that they can't compete in any NCAA sponsored events such as bowl games, post-season tournaments, etc. AFAIK its never been against any law to get paid for doing something. Playing NCAA sports isn't a human right, they have the right to make their own rules and enforce them. Don't like it? Start your own league. Let the Cali teams play for the championship of California. Whoopee.
I think that's the logical course but I don't know if it's enforceable. There's a precedent set (by Obama of course) that if public universities get federal money (as in student loans) then they have to follow federal laws. The Obama administration used it to force universities to investigate any sex allegations. There was a case where two students hooked up - texts and all of her inviting him over for a booty call. But because she was drunk (never mind that so was he) he got expelled.
 

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So this is how amateur sports dies.

When personal greed overcomes the ability to see how fortunate you already are.
 

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Student athletes are not being exploited... They're given a free education, place to live, and food in exchange for participation in a GAME. Do the universities profit off the games? Sure they do, but the student athletes aren't being exploited. They're getting a chance to show off their skills to have an opportunity to enter the pro sports realm where they can earn MILLIONS. So in essence, they're getting free advertising on top of the free education, room and meals. They have it made. I wish I'd had enough athleticism to be given such a chance.
If they are being exploited then so are the students especially researchers
 

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Destroying the country is one thing but when you start fcking with college football it's time to fight.
Agreed, this is much worse. I already stopped watching my beloved NBA over 15 years ago, and my NFL interest has been slowly waning year by year. College sports, especially football, are all I have left.
 

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The funny part is that this is how the majority of posters here feel about their country and football.

Well this is a sports message board. We're a bunch of allegedly grown ass men arguing about college football for a majority of our conscious hours, of course we're serious about it being put in jeopardy.
 

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Florida is next and likely sooner than later.

Yep. Others put your post as high. Guess not -
Does Tim Tebow know? Florida bill would allow college athletes to cash in

Which legislator let’s their state’s college teams be at a disadvantage due to their actions?

If we are going to debate this, lets get a couple of facts straight.

1. Fact: Most collegiate athletic programs aren't self supporting, TV contracts or otherwise. Most require subsidies.
2. Fact: Athletes are compensated; tuition, room & board, cost of attendance stipend, training, clothing, medical, etc. to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Opinion, I think they are fairly compensated. I put myself through college and we put 2 kids through, it ain't cheap.

By the way, I don't consider Fact 2 any different than my situation in grad school (except that athletes got a lot more). I got tuition and a small stipend to do research. UF and my professor owned the work.

Can’t we assume Facts 1&2 are correct, and still add Fact 3: some athletes are in position to make money now based on their play from third party endorsements? These are not opposite positions unless you just believe Athlete’s are some limited area that need to have third party income suppressed. Maybe you do, but it’s not because of these facts. It almost has to be competitive concerns across such an already imbalanced sport.

he NCAA should just tell any team that allows their players to get paid that they can't compete in any NCAA sponsored events such as bowl games, post-season tournaments, etc.

The Power 5 are already under separate rules from the rest and have a right to issue their own legislation. If the NCAA destroys the PAC 12, and SEC (since some southern state is going to do the same to protect its school), the Power 5 split from the NCAA (those schools hold the greatest value, not their self selected regulator). This might be the end of the NCAA basketball tourney, but not college football or basketball. Those top schools can just select a new regulation body or commissioner.

At bare minimum, I would make any endorsements go into a trust fund to get paid once the athlete graduates. If he doesn't graduate in so many years, the money goes to other players at that school.

WHY? No other 18-22 year olds are forced to have their money managed by a stranger (maybe they should). Why is it this athlete has to be so limited, especially if working with an agent who can place them with a financial manager? Granted, many will be idiots, blow the money, get robbed by trusted advisors, etc. but, that happens literally everywhere. Even the trustee of this hypothetical trust could commit a crime when given power over funds. It’s not just Athletes: look how many ponzi schemes feast on the wealthy?

NewSo this is how amateur sports dies.

Who won last years FCS Playoffs. What about the D2 basketball tournament? That is about the only place you are watching full amateurism.

Newsflash, it’s been dead at the highest levels for decades. Its just been illegal, causing all of these schools (us too) to cheat.

As to the Yankee’s reference (in a different post) for dominating player acquisition (and Swamp Donkey’s ironic dislike for this law), once we move a portion of the money we all already spend on Gator sports away from the control of the UAA (who sends it to sports we don’t care about), the Gators are the Yankees. Again, maybe Texas are the Red Sox and ND are the Dodgers, but if our team fervor was truly monetized to the product interest on the field we stand to gain, not lose. Schools like Miss St or Vandy on the other hand, are (still) F’d (but is that really any more than already exists)?

Why don’t we want our $ supporting our Gator football interest going to those that make it better instead of the women’s rowing team? We have 100 plus page threads bytching about this, yet if the Athletes get it we oppose it? This would remove the destructor plate the UAA (and federal government) place upon our competing equally or ahead of schools when we have more football interest. Bama, for instance, clearly puts money were it is earned. We don’t. Unless this happens and the market will make it so.
 
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This is not surprising. You just knew the land of fruits and nuts would come up with a law that would destroy collegiate athletics at its core. Now all the rest of us are dragged into a conversation driven by the idea that a full ride for 4 years of college isn't worth anything, and additional (read HUGE) compensation is required for 18-22 year old kids who are already getting a free college degree. The conflicts and complications this will create are obvious (Who pays? How much? Fairness to all athletes?). If this idiotic idea gets real legs (outside the People's Republic of California) it will be the death knell of collegiate athletics as we know it. The idea that college athletes are unpaid amateurs (however loose that idea has become) has always been the dividing line, with the best athletes benefiting from the national recognition gained via their college careers and getting a chance for big money in the pros. Let California pull away from the NCAA so the whole country can tune in to the exciting brand of football being played by USC, UCLA, SJS, SDS and Cal in the Compensated College league. This will be a great one for the TV carriers to skip.
 
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