California to give up to 10,000 sexual offenders early release

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    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/11/judges-ruling-could-give-over-10000-sex-offenders-early-parole/

    Sacramento County Superior Court Judge Allen Sumner’s ruling relates to the state’s recent referendum on Proposition 57 that orders California prisons to consider early parole for non-violent offenders, the Los Angeles Times reported. Brown, a Democrat, had promised voters that non-violent sex offenders would not see the benefits of the bill, but Sumner’s ruling strikes down the exclusion in part.


    Now, those convicted of pimping minors, incest, or child pornography possession are eligible for release.

    “If the voters had intended to exclude all registered sex offenders from early parole consideration under Proposition 57, they presumably would have said so,” Sumner told reporters.

    Sumner ordered that the exclusion be pared down to only affect those currently serving time of a non-violent sex offense, cutting off its effect for future inmates. He also ordered that any sex offender who has served time for their offense but is now serving time for another offense must be eligible for early release.

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    So did Brown knowingly allow people that like sharing child pornography and that pimp minors to be excluded in this proposition and the Judge is actually following the law or is there a way the Judge can rule those are technically violent crimes legally.

    This looks really bad on Governor Brown if those crimes can't legally be deemed violent because anything on the ballot like that gets reviewed by multiple lawyers and that can't just have been a mistake.
     
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      http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/dan-walters/article94451382.html

      “It’s well-balanced,” Brown said. “It’s thoughtful.”

      Although the measure does not define nonviolent crime, Brown’s campaign confirmed that it would apply to any felony not specifically listed in Penal Code Section 667.5.


      Thus, it could benefit felons convicted of what most people would consider to be violent offenses, including assault with a deadly weapon, soliciting murder, intimidating a crime victim or witness, resisting arrest that injures a police officer, violent elder or child abuse, arson with injury, human trafficking, and several forms of manslaughter and rape.

      The forms of rape not considered violent under Brown’s measure include the rape of an unconscious person and that of an unconscious spouse. And therein lies a burgeoning political conflict.

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      I guess Brown and his fellow crazed Californians think its alright to parole rapists as long as their victims were unconscious.
       
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      Democrats democrating. They can't pass a law protecting children from predators, they can't convict an illegal immigrant for manslaughter and instead, put them back on the street.
       
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        And then have the nuts to tell me that I don't have the right to defend myself with a firearm. I just quoted myself. :lmao2:
         
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              Of course when your jails and prisons are over crowded you let many people out, and of course never allow the feds to get hold of anybody. Foolish progressives, and yet they are said to be in great financial shape, another dream.
               
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                California is projected to run an ~$6B surplus this year. Brown wants to stock it away in a rainy day fund. The libs want to dole it out to the unions.
                 
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                  Brown has done a fairly good job, well I should say I’ve been pleasantly surprised at some of his decisions.
                   
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                  The re-offense rate for these kind of crimes historically is close to 100%
                   
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                    Yeah, like a guy carrying a couple of Benjamins in his pocket thinking he's doing pretty well but ignoring tens of thousands of dollars in credit card debt.

                    http://www.ppic.org/publication/public-pension-liabilities-in-california/
                     
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                    I've seen those studies before, but it's been years so perhaps there are newer ones, however I recall any offense, including a simple VOP was included in those "re-offense" rates.
                     
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                    My problem with the true pedophiles is their wiring is screwed up and if they do re-offend the consequences are so bad. So even if the rate was lower than say your typical felon they should never be released early and these offenders with child porn could take the next step after release. GPS monitoring and all that isn't a silver bullet to stop them from acting out like some people try and claim.
                     
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                          Isn't possession of child porn a federal not state crime? The rest is sickening, lets let them out early to ruin more lives.
                           
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                          It probably depends if the feds want to charge them or not I think or if the case is complicated by out of state connections. I know in FL we have people busted in state court for child porn being on their computers etc.
                           

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