Car buying: New vs. pre-owned

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  1. Nalt

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    Oh, it was a GREAT place for a long, long time. Up until the last few months before "the exodus" that is. And for leaving the lights on? Paleese! I've tried logging in several times but apparently I've been purged from the membership.
     
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    Hold your motor. You weren’t purged. You have to go to the bottom right of the login page and select the COD theme. Without that, no one can log in.

    Apologies to everyone else here for going off subject.
     
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    Cool story. That's exactly the Truck I'm currently looking to purchase. I can only hope we get as lucky.
     
    • Swamp Donkey

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      A lot of check engine lights don't matter. That probably does. I hope it was a vent line and not a fuel line.
       
    • Swamp Donkey

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      Why do you guys act like you can't say the name? Ox DGAF. This isn't swamp ass.
       
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      Voldemort?
       
      • 78

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        It’s not appropriate IMO for open discussion. I’m putting the kibosh on any further commentary from my end.
         
      • jeeping8r

        jeeping8r Your car may go fast, Mine will go anywhere

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        Hole in gas line huh?, Was it plastic with little rodent teeth marks in it? Fairly common, see it all the time.
         
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        Could have been something like that. The "fix" has worked for over a year now.
         
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        I baby my vehicles. I garage them and do all the scheduled, preventative maintenance. And I try to keep them until the wheels fall off. I had a 2002 Dodge Durango that had 219K miles on it and looked like it came off the showroom floor when I rear-ended another driver at low speed on Dale Mabry while texting in December, 2015. Yup. Lesson learned. Even though the damage was pretty minor, Geico totaled her.

        I look for preowned SUVs, 3 years old with 30K or so miles, clean CarFax that passes the inspection of my local mechanic. In addition to never having been hit, I'd prefer it not come from the north to avoid corrosive road salts and chemicals.

        After I totaled the Durango, I bought a 2012 Grand Cherokee with the Hemi (man, does the mileage suck), the top tier, automatically adjustable, air 4WD suspension, neat leather with heated and cooled seats - all the goodies. It had 33K miles on it and was clean as a whistle. I paid $26K OTD for it. I think MSRP for it new was mid-$50s, if memory serves. I still have her and she has a little over 85K miles on her now. Terrible gas mileage aside, I've enjoyed her. She meets my needs, and those of my dog.

        It's odd, as both vehicles are Chrysler products. Incredibly, especially given the pretty horrible reputation of Dodge, that Durango was bulletproof. The only major repair I had, and it was done around 190K miles, was an AC flap actuator, which required the mechanic to remove the dash to repair. And even that wasn't as expensive as I'd feared - like $750. Otherwise, not a thing wrong.

        The Jeep, however, has been a mess. I've lost count of the recall repairs. Has to be half a dozen, including one literally today for a fuel pump relay. And recently I noticed a tiny oil leak. I took her to the mechanic two weeks ago and his best guess is it needs a new rear main seal. That's a huge job - likely around 18-19 hours and $2K. He said he'd recommend I take it to the dealer for that. The leak is so small, it didn't even need oil when he looked at it. I've poured in some Blue Devil Rear Main Sealer and that seems to have stopped it. And 2012 means my Jeep was redesigned during Chrysler's Daimler era. I guess in the end, between the two Chrysler products, things have sort of evened out.

        I've begun nosing around for replacement for the Jeep. Based on everything, including a really spendy main seal repair at 85K miles, I don't get the sense she's going to last too much longer. I am planning on moving to Japanese quality and am looking at, in no particular order, (all per the criteria above) Lexus GX460, Lexus RX350, Acura RDX and Toyota 4Runner. Man, if the 4Runner had a more modern transmission and better mileage, that might be the one.
         
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        Years ago I wanted a 4Runner but just couldn't pull the trigger on it based on price so we ended up with an Explorer. Worst decision ever and it got a new transmission right after the warranty expired. So happy to be rid of it and ended up with a new 4Runner Limited. Over a 100,000 miles later and I wouldn't trade it for anything except a Land Cruiser. Couldn't be more pleased and they retain their values. However the body style hasn't changed in many years and it only gets about 15-17mpg.
         
        • Gatorbreath

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          Amazingly, your 4Runner gets better mileage than my Jeep. I get maybe 11-13 MPG around town, and maybe 17-18 on the highway. And it I put 93 octane in it. It does have cylinder deactivation when the engine is not under stress, so the highway mileage is a lot better.

          It is crazy how Land Cruisers hold their value. You just can't kill them, though their mileage might be worse than your 4Runner. And 2021 is going to be the last year for them, so you'd better move quickly if you want one.
           
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            The only way I’d end up with a land cruiser is used anyway. After having a Tundra and 4Runner I’m a slave to Japan now. Dammit.
             
            • bradgator2

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              Wife got a new 4runner a few months ago. Our first one. That’s a damn fine vehicle.
               
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                Good stuff in crappy countries... loved mine, all 3 of them.
                 
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                  This whole topic is stupid... here's what is coming! ;)

                  State determine you only need 76 octane sedan. State also acknowledge that 76 octane sedan require frequent repair. So, State give you roadside repair ramp approximately every 100 kilometer. As can see, State provided repair ramp is more than adequate for this purpose... State say, "you welcome."
                  ramp.jpg
                   
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                  @Gatorbreath Get the 4-Runner. I’ve had one last nearly 20 years. My wife had a RX350. Loved it but just too fancy for us.
                   
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                  "Too fancy"? Didn't you just buy a big, huge "fancy" SUV? Maybe I eat my candy bars with a fork and knife and like "fancy" SUVs. Ever think of that?? :lol:

                  Jokes aside, I like how the 4Runner looks and love its toughness and reliability. I'm a bit concerned about its "truckiness" compared to my very smooth Jeep, and its poor gas mileage. I test drove them when I bought the Jeep - but that was a pretty long time ago.

                  I do plan to test drive one when this search ramps up.
                   
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                  LOL. No, I bought a Jeep Wrangler. And yes, the gas mileage sucks. I get maybe 15 mpg compared to my 4-Runner I got about 21 mpg. I like the stiffness in my vehicle. I don’t like the feeling of a boat on the road.
                   
                • jeeping8r

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                  The turbo 4 cylinder Wranglers are pulling about 25mpg un modified, Of course a 3" lift and 35s will eat into that. Little factoid I picked up is when the turbo 4 came out they were out running some of the v8 conversion wranglers, both LS and Hemi conversions.
                  If I were to buy a new one think I'd opt for the turbo 4, Not sold on the 3.6 V6, My 3.8 has less power and less gears in the trans but almost 135K with 0 issues.
                  Friend of mine just bought a diesel Gladiator Rubicon, Need to get with him and see how he likes it so far.
                   

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