Conceal carry anyone?

Discussion in 'Home, Auto, Hobby and Computer Tech' started by Nalt, Aug 7, 2020.

  1. Detroitgator

    Detroitgator Well-Known Member
    Lifetime Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2014
    Messages:
    18,413
    Oxbucks:
    $13,176
    Ratings:
    +21,389 / -157
    Much like "panic," lazy/sloppy also kills...
     
    • G8trwood

      G8trwood Well-Known Member
      Lifetime Member

      Joined:
      Nov 29, 2015
      Messages:
      2,406
      Oxbucks:
      $2,314
      Ratings:
      +3,273 / -119
      Figured someone might need this ....

      04B9C980-1C40-44D8-9CCD-DB1393116A92.jpeg
       
    • Bushmaster

      Bushmaster Well-Known Member
      Lifetime Member

      Joined:
      Jul 27, 2018
      Messages:
      1,746
      Oxbucks:
      $2,775
      Ratings:
      +3,276 / -174
      12 gauge is awesome. Butt stroke, face smash, barrel poke.

      Much better than pistol and better control.

      Be careful who ya shooting. 40 years ago, a lady in my home town shot her daughter in the face and killed her. Thought she was a burglar. Daughter trying to sneak in after curfew. Sad.
       
      • Bullag8r

        Bullag8r Senior Member
        Lifetime Member

        Joined:
        Jul 24, 2014
        Messages:
        1,223
        Oxbucks:
        $967
        Ratings:
        +1,360 / -62
         
        • Funny Funny x 2
        • Like Like x 1
        • List
        • CDGator

          CDGator Well-Known Member
          Lifetime Member

          Joined:
          Jul 24, 2020
          Messages:
          3,808
          Oxbucks:
          $5,394
          Ratings:
          +8,229 / -104
          What, if anything, did your wife decide on? I’d like something else for CC but without the big recoil.

          I rely on my S&W 38 bodyguard for travel and home. Simple to use in an emergency. If we had time (like when the swat team was trying to find someone hiding on our road) we have other better home defense options. My 38 is not ideal in all scenarios and would like something else but “limp wrist” is an issue for me. Sad but true. Seedy’s choices are just too much for my small frame.
           
        • Swamp Donkey

          Swamp Donkey That's the sound your mother made last night
          Lifetime Member

          Joined:
          Jun 9, 2014
          Messages:
          69,768
          Oxbucks:
          $63,635
          Ratings:
          +95,585 / -6,508
          a friend of mine is a retired cop. he got his mother (RIP) who was in her 80s at the time and struggling physically one of those 6 shot 32 HR magnums. i know some who recommend 22 magnum for that scenario.

          not my cup of tea but if you struggle with limpwristing a small pistol, you will really struggle with 38 snub. there are some really light recoiling 38 designed for snubbies but at that point you might be better off with the 32 (and get one more round).

          re limpwristing: I was working with a small female shooter, of very slight build. I'd guess like maybe even less than 5 feet and like 95 pounds. very experienced, her form was PERFECT, but she still struggled with rapid follow up shots. she isn't particularly strong of course. the key however was to squeeze the gun more (squeezing the lemon we say) with both palms and particularly the UPPER part of the off hand (squeezing into the frame with the base of the thumb). this helped a bunch. the other thing she needed to do was use her shoulders too. those are large muscles and for some reason people forget to tense them up. JUST before you fire you should be tensing your forearms, triceps, upper arms, your shoulders and even your back. it matters less for big dudes, but for smaller people it is important.

          more limpwristing: it is just a fact that smaller guns require more faithful wristlock. Bigger guns have a bigger upper slide and less recoil spring. Try something like a G19 or similar sized gun. You will be surprised how much less it recoils and how much easier it is to operate
           
          • Swamp Donkey

            Swamp Donkey That's the sound your mother made last night
            Lifetime Member

            Joined:
            Jun 9, 2014
            Messages:
            69,768
            Oxbucks:
            $63,635
            Ratings:
            +95,585 / -6,508
            Ive heard that story way too often.

            Or your brother who drove into town for a surprise visit and used his own key so as to not wake you.

            Or even the drunk neighbor kid, who you love, but who knows you keep a few cases of beer in your garage and knows you wouldnt mind if he took one or two.

            All shotguns and really all home guns should have a light on them. they are cheap and easy to mount these days. if not, you should know how to use your flashlight.
             
            • CDGator

              CDGator Well-Known Member
              Lifetime Member

              Joined:
              Jul 24, 2020
              Messages:
              3,808
              Oxbucks:
              $5,394
              Ratings:
              +8,229 / -104
              Thank you. I really appreciate the suggestion and the .32 H&R magnum sounds like a really good fit. Not familiar with it at all but several videos that I watched convinced me that it's something to try out at the range. All the suggestions that you made about limpwrist are things I can control when I'm focused on it or with a LOT more practice but if I had to get off multiple rounds in a panic I don't think I could do it.

              Ammoseek didn't have the .32 h&r magnum anywhere so that would be a huge drawback if it's not available. I'll keep looking and really do appreciate the input.
               
            • Concrete Helmet

              Concrete Helmet Hook, Line, and Sinker
              Lifetime Member

              Joined:
              Jul 29, 2014
              Messages:
              14,639
              Oxbucks:
              $8,647
              Ratings:
              +14,142 / -1,031
              That's the advantage to not being well liked....or even liked in the least.....or even considered sane by any neighbors....people walk across the street to use the sidewalk on the other side when walking by my house...of course limping around the yard with a pick axe and talking about biscuits may have something to do with it also...
              But I guarantee you one thing and that is this.... ain't no one who knows me coming inside my house for a surprise visit or to take even one of my beers....
               
              • Funny Funny x 3
              • Like Like x 2
              • List
              • Swamp Donkey

                Swamp Donkey That's the sound your mother made last night
                Lifetime Member

                Joined:
                Jun 9, 2014
                Messages:
                69,768
                Oxbucks:
                $63,635
                Ratings:
                +95,585 / -6,508
                Surely there is someone in your life who likes you.
                 
              • NOLAGATOR

                NOLAGATOR Deep Behind Enemy Lines
                Lifetime Member

                Joined:
                Aug 20, 2018
                Messages:
                8,127
                Oxbucks:
                $8,084
                Ratings:
                +9,362 / -859
                Bersa .380
                 
                • CDGator

                  CDGator Well-Known Member
                  Lifetime Member

                  Joined:
                  Jul 24, 2020
                  Messages:
                  3,808
                  Oxbucks:
                  $5,394
                  Ratings:
                  +8,229 / -104
                  Thanks, I’ll check into it. Sorry if you already posted about it. I was about 4 pages behind and didn’t read everything.
                   
                • NOLAGATOR

                  NOLAGATOR Deep Behind Enemy Lines
                  Lifetime Member

                  Joined:
                  Aug 20, 2018
                  Messages:
                  8,127
                  Oxbucks:
                  $8,084
                  Ratings:
                  +9,362 / -859
                  They are under $300 new. (Ammo is a B!^@# to get)
                  They are not the best nor are the they real accurate at long distance
                  BUT it's nice for the price and it does what I wanted. It meets my objective.
                   
                  • Bushmaster

                    Bushmaster Well-Known Member
                    Lifetime Member

                    Joined:
                    Jul 27, 2018
                    Messages:
                    1,746
                    Oxbucks:
                    $2,775
                    Ratings:
                    +3,276 / -174

                    The most important sentence here.

                    I was given some down votes for the best all around pistol to buy. For beginner, advanced shooter, home defense, conceal carry, all around shooting, my vote goes for .357 with a one inch barrel. There is literally a much better gun available for each one of these categories, but that gun checks the block for every one of them. For a beginner, a woman, first time shooter, cc, stopping power, it does a decent job on everything and excels at a lot of them. Simple. Point and shoot and watch bad guy drop and cry before he dies.

                    It is my choice of pistol and what I keep beside my bed (4 inch barrel, no dick jokes) at night. My mom has the shorter barrel version and loves it. She can pull the slide on a semi auto but will drop the hammer like the Philo Beddo's mom in Every Which Way But Loose.
                     
                    • Detroitgator

                      Detroitgator Well-Known Member
                      Lifetime Member

                      Joined:
                      Jul 15, 2014
                      Messages:
                      18,413
                      Oxbucks:
                      $13,176
                      Ratings:
                      +21,389 / -157
                      [​IMG]
                      or similar... i just grabbed the first pic a saw...
                       
                      • Gator By Marriage

                        Gator By Marriage A convert to Gatorism
                        Lifetime Member

                        Joined:
                        Dec 31, 2018
                        Messages:
                        7,802
                        Oxbucks:
                        $11,419
                        Ratings:
                        +13,171 / -210
                        Lot of wisdom here.

                        I have known many a smaller frame female who was an effective shooter with a semi-auto. The limp wristing issue is in my experience due to either a shooter not holding the weapon/positioning their body properly (great point about the shoulders) or just not paying proper attention as opposed to a strength issue. Back when I was an instructor (long, long ago) we tended to notice that the folks who had this issue tended to have other issues such as anticipating the gun going off. Once we corrected that issue the other problems started taking care of themselves. Full disclosure: My instructor time was all on a LE range so rarely were lighter frame weapons present. The semi autos were all 9's, 357's, 40's, or 45's and almost exclusively Sigs, & Glocks, and to a lesser extent S&Ws, or Berettas.

                        For anyone who can't seem to get over the issue, I'd highly recommend practicing at the range with a few dummy rounds in your magazine. The dummy rounds, especially if someone else loads them for you, will cause you to regularly perform surprise immediate action drills (like "tap, rack, bang"). With practice, one can get good at immediate recognition and very fast at resolving the issue. Hell, even if you aren't limp wristing, I/A drills are a good idea if you are using a semi auto for self defense.
                         
                        • CDGator

                          CDGator Well-Known Member
                          Lifetime Member

                          Joined:
                          Jul 24, 2020
                          Messages:
                          3,808
                          Oxbucks:
                          $5,394
                          Ratings:
                          +8,229 / -104
                          I'm sure that all my issues could be solved with continual practice and training myself to hold it differently because I don't see my body frame changing much. :lol:
                          I really do appreciate the advice and input.
                           
                          • Bushmaster

                            Bushmaster Well-Known Member
                            Lifetime Member

                            Joined:
                            Jul 27, 2018
                            Messages:
                            1,746
                            Oxbucks:
                            $2,775
                            Ratings:
                            +3,276 / -174
                            May not be limp wristing. Could be bad ammo. Either way, that's solid advice, Immediate action drills when your life depends on it just may pay off.
                             
                            • Detroitgator

                              Detroitgator Well-Known Member
                              Lifetime Member

                              Joined:
                              Jul 15, 2014
                              Messages:
                              18,413
                              Oxbucks:
                              $13,176
                              Ratings:
                              +21,389 / -157
                              Did I mention this.... ? ;)
                              20201026_104229.jpg
                               
                              • Like Like x 1
                              • Funny Funny x 1
                              • List
                              • CDGator

                                CDGator Well-Known Member
                                Lifetime Member

                                Joined:
                                Jul 24, 2020
                                Messages:
                                3,808
                                Oxbucks:
                                $5,394
                                Ratings:
                                +8,229 / -104
                                I’m sure you all have looked locally for ammo but this is our local Walmart supply today. Probably the same nationwide.

                                6B377EAB-DB6A-4891-AE49-19AD1634C26A.jpeg
                                 

                                Share This Page

                                The Box

                                Help

                                You don't have the necessary permissions to use the chat.

                                  1. There are currently no users chatting.
                                    • About Us

                                      Our community sprung up when the Gatorsports message board was shut down in the summer of 2014. We pride ourselves on offering Gator-biased, yet critical discussion among people of all different backgrounds. We are working every day to make sure our community is the best Gator message board you will find.
                                    • Like us on Facebook

                                    • Buy us a Zima!

                                      The management works very hard to make sure the community is running the best software, best designs, and all the other bells and whistles. Care to buy us a non-alcoholic Zima? We'd really appreciate it! Just click the "Donate" tab at the top of the page.