Did Trump Throw His Generals Under The Bus?

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    I'll give Trump credit for backing down, but once again he solves a crisis of his own making. He lets his war Hawks talk him into abandoning the nuclear deal, increasing sanctions, then not shockingly Iran responds badly, and he agrees with Bolton and Pompeo to launch an attack....then at the last minute backs down because Tucker Carlson told him to.

    Forgive me if I don't bow at the alter of Trumps supposed foreign policy prowess.
     
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    • Taco Gratis

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      One of his best decisions.
       
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        Ah, so history began with Trump pulling out of a great deal... a deal rooted in superior foreign policy prowess... got it.

        Predictable and typical
         
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          ... and exactly when has Iran responded goodly?
           
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            Up until Trump pulled out of the awesome Iran deal. Prior to that, it was all goodly.
             
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              Trump is trolling the left. Try not to get too excited.
               
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                I bigly await the answer to this. :lol:
                 
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                  There is much I don't like much about Trump, but I think his basic instincts for exhibiting strength but avoiding conflict unless necessary are right. The problem is he has so many other motivations you have to hope his better angels prevail. There is a side of him that likes blowhards like Bolton and how other leaders treat him personally influences him too.

                  As I've said elsewhere this crisis is his own making. While Iran is a bad actor there was no reason to embark on this escalation. Whether you like the Iran nuclear deal or not, **** canning it after it has been negotiated (and we returned their money) bought us nothing.
                   
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                    There was nothing to shytcan. A treaty that isnt approved by the Senate isnt shyt
                     
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                    say hello to your buttbuddy Barry for me... ya know, the one who broke the record for "l" in a speech... ya know, the one who said that wars would cease, the hungry would finally be filled, the oceans would rescind and the planet would heal, all because he got a few votes.
                     
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                    Wouldn't that be scandalous, the dim party coordinating with Iran to shoot down a drone to try to goad Trump into retaliation making him look bad to the US media.

                    Anyone who trusts these bastards deserves what they get.
                     
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                      I for one think it was a total ploy on his part to make the assahola Iatolah think about how close he was to annihilation

                      I am also glad it was called off
                       
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                        You forgot the part about going on the record with your view of the right approach for President Trump to take from here on out. What could he do (or not do) that would get you to admit he handled the situation well?
                         
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                        1. They are HIS Generals

                        2. We elect the President not the Military

                        3. Any good CEO or Leader takes in as much data as possible...time permitting and then makes their decisions.

                        And it's not like we can't still strike...BUT once we do...you can't erase it.
                         
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                        Everybody here has it wrong. Trump didn't override the generals. The generals didn't want to do it in the first place. It was Trump pushing it with the backing of Bolton and Pompeo, then at the last minute reversing course, due to Tucker Carlsons advice.

                        This narrative of Trump keeping the generals in check is false and more likely backwards.
                         
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