Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

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      Yahweh is the same God to all 3 faiths; so I'm not sure why this is in dispute.

      The entire article can be summed up by saying "because Jews and Muslims don't believe in the New Testament, they can't claim to be worshipping the same God." Which is absurdly ludicrous reasoning.
       
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        Are we not ALL children of Abraham?


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          NO!
          Muslims claim the same god as Jews/Christians but they changed the nature of God to something different.
          It’s not the same God.
           
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            Ask a Muslim if the worship the god of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
             
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              The actual answer is: It depends who you ask.
               
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              The spellings of the names would be different, but all 3 are found in the Quran.
               
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              ? Same God as Branch Dividians, as Jim Jones Peoples Temple, as Heaven's Gate, etc ??
               
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                Also Moses, John the Baptist, Jesus and several other Jews. In fact there are more Jews among the great prophets of Islam than any other group. Ironic, eh?
                 
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                They all come from the same origin, but are believed to have proceeded down different paths.

                Does it mean they are the same, or different?

                To any one of the three point of views, it is the other two just got it all totally wrong.

                To an atheist it is pointless. Is this fictional diet that came from the same origins the same as another fictional dirty. Just another my God is better than your God circle jerk.
                 
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                Actually this is not correct. For example, many Muslims believe Christians are close to “the truth.” They just mistake a great prophet, Jesus, the second greatest prophet to their way of thinking, as being the son of God.
                Christians share many similar beliefs with Jews.
                 
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                And there is the reason why Jews and Mooslims are locked in eternal strife....The good Baby Jesus God is punishing them for their sins....
                 
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                I am supposed to see your posts, and think you are a follower of Jesus' teachings?

                :rotfl:
                 
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                All men fall short of the glory of God

                Yet not all find it ok to kill innocent new and unborn babies......
                 
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                  Some more than others.


                   
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                  Incorrect. The Muslim god is named Allah. He has no other name. The Jewish and Christian God is named Jehovah. Nowhere in the Muslim religion is the name Jehovah recognized as another name for Allah, and nowhere in the Jewish or Christian religions is Allah recognized as another name for Jehovah. Allah and Jehovah are two distinctly separate and different beings, each promulgating a diametrically opposed message to that of the other. Jehovah is a God of love, creation, forgiveness, and redemption. Allah is a god of murder, death, unforgiveness, and enslavement. It's ridiculous to equate the two.
                   
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                  Never said they were. I was responding to Swonk’s post, but the God of those prophets is the one true God, be it Jehovah, Yahweh, or Allah. As I said in my first post in this topic, it all depends on who you ask.
                   
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                    That is incorrect. Allah is simply the Arabic word for "God"...the Quran spells and pronounces YHWH (the Hebrew spelling for Yahweh) as HoWa. The translation is different, but they are all referring to the same deity.

                    Yahweh in Quran

                    I think it's also important to recognize that the Old Testament is very similar to the Quran and many chapters are identical. There's plenty of passages in the OT where God commanded the Israelites to conquer, kill, and enslave...but no Christians today observe that practice since Jesus thoroughly disabused the notion that God wants us to kill in His name.

                    It's unfortunate that Mohammed was more of an "old school" Biblical prophet in the sense that he reiterated the OT's commandments to kill or enslave those who would resist God. I often wonder how much better off the world would be if Mohammed had a message closer to Jesus's.
                     
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                    "You worship what you do not know."
                     
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                      yes homosexuality is also a sin just like murdering babies.....
                       

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