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Discussion in 'Politics' started by g8tr72, Dec 19, 2018.
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As long as not inmate is compelled to attend religious services, it seems fine to me that the government contract with local churches, synagogues and other religious organizations to provide religious services and counseling to inmates. Government funding to support the local religious community seems like a good use of taxpayers dollars if we are required to provide the service anyway. Also, as I'm sure you are aware, the title doesn't match the story.
I am not sure why any money from the government, ie our taxes, is given to any religious organization, regardless of affiliation. This is wrong on so many levels. First of all, churches are tax exempt, and then they get money to proselytize? If a religious organization wants to proselytize, then do it on their own dime. Do not get government funding to do it.
I agree broadly with your statement - but insofar that the government is required to provide religious services for inmates, I think it's a reasonable step to contract with religious leaders to provide these services. As long as inmates are free to choose whatever religion they would like to support, and that said religion follows all stated rules in being able to provide those services, then I'm not sure there's much here.
No. The government should not pay a dime for any of these "services." Inmates should be provided the FREEDOM to worship as they wish, not the groups acquiring funding to do so. Every religious organization should be willing and able to FREELY provide any materials or mentors for inmates. There's the astute brilliance skill we've come to admire.
So, the Federal Bureau of Prisons has this to say: BOP: Religious Programs So, the BOP employs Chaplains, and also contracts with spiritual leaders. So, in your opinion, should the government change this policy and remove all funding related to this?
How do you feel about Chaplins in the military?
I take back that astute brilliance comment. Some people understand the difference between a prison Chaplain who is an employee who coordinates and assists an inmate in his pursuit of religion and a outside religious organization seeking to proselytize.
Yes. ZERO government funding should go to anything religious related. If the govt. funds proselytizing, then take away their tax-exempt status. Can't have it both ways.
Hope this answers your question. Dobson's Focus on the Family gets US Gov $ to teach Gospel to inmates
Not really, but I see where you're coming from. However, a military Chaplin specifically performs the same function as a private Chaplin.
"coordinates and assists".... Note #2 on the list. Sounds a lot like "proselyizing" to me. And if you've ever met a Chaplain from the South, you know there's a whole bunch of "proselyzing" going on. And that's fine. I don't care. As long as the inmate is not forced to participate and is free to choose/follow their own religion.
I am personally closely related to a prison ChapLAIN. Thanks though. I stand by my "fine-line" position. No money to outside groups who are there to proselytize 100% of the time. Pretty easy to distinguish IMO.
Ok. There should be clear rules so everyone knows what is allowed, and then everyone can be held to the same standard.
Can atheist organizations get federal funding as well to help the prisoners?
You mean like Planned Parenthood?
I go every week for two hours plus one hour travel time. I get one free golf shirt (identifying me as a volunteer) and a certificate of appreciation once a year. Only tax payer $ spent is for the Chaplin coordinator. There's about eight of us that go into the different pods.
The gospel changes lives. I'd be willing to bet a weeks pay out of all the guys I've met with none are on their first "rodeo". One older guy told me he'd been arrested 18 time. Where I go is not a State prison but a county correctional facility (Port Manatee) where most of my guys are awaiting trial. If they get sentenced to more than a year they are then transferred into the State prison system. I say this because I'm constantly meeting with new guys and not the same crowd over and over.
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