Dooley & Andreu leaving the Gainesville Sun

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    The Sun was long overdue to shake things up and toss out the deadwood. I applaud their move. Gator sports is the ultimate home field advantage and they did little in the past to exploit the opportunity into a business advantage.

    I have no idea how many young fledgling sports writers there are out there anymore, but the bar was already low at the Sun. Go to the Alligator, go to the homeless shelters, but get some energetic new blood that acts like it wants to be there. And for heaven’s sake, stop acting like a homer. Challenge these overpaid administrators in their decision making.
     
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        But right in the middle of a big season? Wouldn't you find that to be unusual?
         
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        Perhaps because it's a big season and half the US is hiding in their basements surfing the net but Sun traffic is still in the toilet, the execs finally realized that these 2 tools are not the ones to keep so they decided to pull the plug now.

        To quote (or maybe paraphrase) the best AD in history "what must be done eventually should be done immediately".
         
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          The homeless shelters start accepting holiday RSVPs around this time. There’s a lot of jockeying around for space among the scribes. I think the Sun was looking to get a leg up on its competition.
           
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            I doubt Dooley has left his basement. He has been sitting by a CNN screen drinking straight vodka shaking uncontrollably in fear of Wuhan sniffles.
             
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              Its a big season and Drooley wont actually cover it.
               
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              The only real takeaway for me is the Gainesville paper is on the rocks. Dooley's lip-smacking was my only real beef with him (I broke a decent set of headphones against the wall) - you can see worse from hacks like Bianchi at the Slantinel and our resident Tampa jackal Fenelly, who showed his prowess by keeping the Gators at #8 after beating #5 UGA so he could stick CincyFingNatti and BYU ahead of us. The Sun has shown zero leadership letting its once-breathing forum die, and now finishing off their wobbling sports department is the smartest thing these fuchs could come up with.
               
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                Honestly, I had completely forgotten about the guy.
                 
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                  I spoke some months ago with a local reporter for the Lakeland Ledger, which has always been part of the group of local papers owned previously by The NY Times, Halifax, and now Gannett (USA Today.) She said cost cutting has left them with a minimal shell of local reporters and a handful of stringers. She is making half what she did 10 years ago, about what a starting teacher makes, and is writing a lot more and shorter articles. It’s bad.

                  I suspect that Pat & Robbie were asked to take a deep pay cut or retire. Otherwise you ride the season out, especially when it looks so interesting.

                  There hasn’t been news other than whatever the SID feeds them since SOS left. UM3 clamped down on leaks and Muschamp ushered in a bunker mentality that has become the norm. Everyone is scripted, including the players. So all you’re left with is regurgitation of whatever Scott Carter wrote, or what the pool all heard in the same press conference. And then there are the opinion pieces that come out from Bianchi et al.

                  Seems to me Gannett should have a plan.
                   
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                    Your last paragraph was rock solid truth and it’s why newspapers are dying. The “Pete and Repeat “ procedures are very similar in every other section of the paper.

                    Is there a source anywhere of any format, other than Gatorchatter of course, that provides real news on gator athletics?
                     
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                      New Media aka Gatehouse bought Gannett and is the surviving Corp. using the Gannett name only.
                       
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                        Wait. Robbie just now turned 66? I thought he was in his 60's 15 years ago.
                         
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                          Spot on right. You’ll note Dooley made zero mention of sliding into planned unemployment, but rather noted all the independent projects he would be taking on. The awful economics of print journalism have, for better or worse, left him and his longtime sidekick scrambling for a living.
                           
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                            They could have and would have a terrific revenue stream had they kept their message board and tried to make it better.
                             
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                              Realistically, what does that mean? how many active posters and viewers did we have back in the day on gsmb?
                               
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                              It wasn’t just active members. It was visitors as well. I remember seeing the numbers swell to unimaginable levels when Meyer shockingly announced he was quitting.

                              The Sun as usual was more notorious for what it didn’t do than what it did do, and that’s parlay those numbers into advertising revenue. What were they going to argue, that the GSMB demographic didn’t jive with their local advertisers?
                               
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                                I don't remember the numbers, but obviously I remember it was a lot bigger. I wonder how many visited for the news stories back then versus the forum and how much actual income there is off of site off that.

                                I don't think Gannette has ever tried to make their money off Google ads. they still try to sell their own or sell subscriptions. outdated business models.

                                nevertheless I wonder how big the thing has to be to go from a little bit of side money to a thing that supplies the salary for even one person.
                                 
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                                The GSMB forum itself was rimmed with ads, the only thing preventing them from being seen being ad blockers. I won’t pretend to know the traffic statistics or how they translated. I will only project that where there is traffic, there is opportunity.
                                 
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                                  He and Robbie's on the field after the game podcasts were pretty hilarious during the 4-8 season under the Shark humper.
                                   

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