Gators AD bears scars of Will Muschamp, Ron Zook failures

[Gatoravatara]

" The World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party may devolve into closing time for Will Muschamp in Jacksonville this weekend.
Exits are often painful and messy for coaches at big-time programs. They rarely get the Rolex watch and a victory parade. The grand finale usually involves a fire.com website demanding their dismissal, followed by the inevitable call from the athletic director to bring in the playbook."

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sport...29-column.html

 

[WobbleGator]

I will never click on an orlando sentinel link. :headshake:

 

[stephenPE]

I saw all that bs yesterday. I would much rather read Mikey's column than some idiot stating the obvious, To me, the Zook recruits and Meyer's success cancels out the rest.

 

[Gatoravatara]

It is true what he is saying. His hires have been busts. That is why it has taken so long to pull the trigger.

 

[stephenPE]

We all know JF is looking for a new coach. Beating the fckn dead horse everyday is monotonous. I will say this, RZ was the perfect one to follow SOS because NOBODY could follow him, Ron won enough and left us loaded. Urb took em along with timmy and Percy and found gold.

 

[NavetG8r]

All the more reason Foley needs to hit a homerun on this next hire. It needs to be somebody 99% of the Gator Nation will be excited over. Needs to be a proven successful HC. No more experiments. Football pays the bills. It takes money to make money.

 

[crosscreekcooter]

It is true what he is saying. His hires have been busts. That is why it has taken so long to pull the trigger.

One can only be left to imagine our successes without Jeremy Foley. He started selling tickets and washing jocks in 1976 and became AD in 1992. While he gets all the credit for Zook and Muschamp, he also gets some of the credit for the successes of all the Gator Programs. His name is all over this place. [h=3]NACDA Directors' Cup[edit][/h] The National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics (NACDA) has recognized the University of Florida as being among the nation's top ten NCAA Division I athletic programs in its NACDA Directors' Cup standings every year since 1983–84. The 2013–14 academic year marked the Gators' thirty-first consecutive year among the nation's top ten best overall collegiate athletic programs.[SUP][2][/SUP] Only one other Division I athletic program has matched that feat, and Florida has achieved this record while fielding fewer sports teams than many of the other perennially top-ranked collegiate athletic programs.[SUP][2][/SUP] In the initial thirty-one years of the NACDA Directors' Cup, the Gators have finished fifth or better in twenty-two years, and have never finished lower than ninth, a claim only Stanford University's athletic program can better.
NACDA All-Sports Rankings[SUP][2][/SUP]
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[TD="width: 64"]8th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]1986–87[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]4th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]1987–88[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]5th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]1988–89[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]9th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]1989–90[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]5th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]1990–91[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]5th[/TD]

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[TD="width: 64"]1991–92[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]5th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]1992–93[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]4th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]1993–94[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]4th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]1994–95[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]5th[/TD]

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[TD="width: 64"]3rd[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]1996–97[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]5th[/TD]

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[TD="width: 64"]4th[/TD]

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[TD="width: 64"]1999–00[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]7th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]2000–01[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]7th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]2001–02[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]3rd[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]2002–03[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]7th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]2003–04[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]6th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]2004–05[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]6th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]2005–06[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]5th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]2006–07[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]6th[/TD]

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[TD="width: 64"]2007–08[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]6th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]2008–09[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]3rd[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]2009–10[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]2nd[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]2010–11[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]4th[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]2011–12[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]2nd[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]2012–13[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]2nd[/TD]

[TD="width: 64"]2013–14[/TD]
[TD="width: 64"]2nd[/TD]

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[h=3]SEC All-Sports Trophy[edit][/h] Through the end of the 2013–14 school year, the Florida Gators have won 218 Southeastern Conference (SEC) team championships, the most in conference history.[SUP][67][/SUP][SUP][68][/SUP]
The SEC All-Sports Trophy began in 1973 as the Bernie Moore Trophy and tabulated the league's best men's sports program.[SUP][69][/SUP] In 1983, the SEC also began recognizing the best women's sports program in the conference, as well as the best overall SEC sports program.[SUP][70][/SUP] In 1994, the New York Times Regional Newspaper Group assumed responsibility for awarding the trophies.[SUP][1][/SUP] In the 39-year history of the awards, Florida has won nineteen Women's Trophies, sixteen Men's Trophies, and twenty-two Overall SEC All-Sports Trophies (including twenty-two of the last twenty-five).[SUP][1][/SUP]
SEC rival Georgia won the overall 2005–06 All-Sports Trophy to snap Florida's record streak at fourteen straight (1990–91 through 2004–05).[SUP][1][/SUP] Florida reclaimed the SEC All-Sports Trophy for the 2006–07 school year, and the Gators again swept the overall, men's, and women's all-sports trophies in every year since.[SUP][1][/SUP] The Gators are the only SEC sports program to earn all three SEC all-sports trophies in a single year, and have swept all three trophies twelve times.[SUP][1][/SUP]
[h=2]National championships[edit][/h]

2008 National Championship Trophy​

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In their 108-year history of intercollegiate competition, the University of Florida's varsity athletic teams have won thirty-three national team championships (including twenty-eight sponsored by the NCAA, two by the AIAW, two by the BCS, and one by the Bowl Alliance), and its individual athletes have won 267 individual NCAA national championships.[SUP][10][/SUP][SUP][71][/SUP][SUP][72][/SUP] Florida is the only Division I school to hold both major men's championships at the same time (as the 2006 BCS football champions and the 2006 and 2007 NCAA men's basketball champions).[SUP][73][/SUP]
Men's National Championships

• Basketball (2): 2006 • 2007[SUP][73][/SUP]
• Football (3): 1996 • 2006 • 2008[SUP][74][/SUP]
• Golf (4): 1968 • 1973 • 1993 • 2001[SUP][75][/SUP]
• Indoor Track and Field (3): 2010 • 2011 • 2012[SUP][7][/SUP]
• Outdoor Track and Field (2): 2012 • 2013
• Swimming and Diving (2): 1983 • 1984[SUP][76][/SUP]

Women's National Championships

• Golf (2): 1985 • 1986[SUP][77][/SUP]
• Gymnastics (3): 1982 • 2013 • 2014[SUP][78][/SUP]
• Indoor Track and Field (1): 1992[SUP][79][/SUP]
• Soccer (1): 1998[SUP][80][/SUP]
• Softball (1): 2014[SUP][81][/SUP]
• Swimming and Diving (3): 1979 • 1982 • 2010[SUP][82][/SUP]
• Tennis (6): 1992 • 1996 • 1998 • 2003 • 2011 • 2012[SUP][83][/SUP]

The national intercollegiate sports championships listed above were sponsored by the NCAA unless otherwise noted in the footnotes.

 

[Gatoravatara]

We all know JF is looking for a new coach. Beating the fckn dead horse everyday is monotonous.

This horse will be beaten until he pulls the trigger. This is all on him. He controls the situation. Not us. It would be one thing if there was nothing that could be done and we were all just complaining towards no end. But Foley could stop the bleeding immediately. Then all the threads would shift to who should/will be our next coach.

 

[Gatoravatara]

Nobody is questioning the other sports. I am not even questioning his Zook or Muschamp hire at this point. I am questioning his stubborness on pulling the trigger on firing Muschamp. There is no benefit to dragging this out any longer.

 

[T REX]

I wear my Gator tennis gear all the time...diving too

 

[Gator Fever]

Yep no one really cares about the other sports that much in reality and we were generally top 5 overall in all sports combined the years before Foley took over. He needs to get it right this time.

 

[crosscreekcooter]

Yeah, and we won 3 natty's in football with him driving the bus.

 

[crosscreekcooter]

Nobody is questioning the other sports. I am not even questioning his Zook or Muschamp hire at this point. I am questioning his stubborness on pulling the trigger on firing Muschamp. There is no benefit to dragging this out any longer.

Why don't you give him a call,probably been waiting on you for the proper direction.

 

[VulcanAlex]

All the more reason Foley needs to hit a homerun on this next hire. It needs to be somebody 99% of the Gator Nation will be excited over. Needs to be a proven successful HC. No more experiments. Football pays the bills. It takes money to make money.

And just who might meet your requirements and be happy to come to the mess that we have? I don't see anybody that meets the requirements and might come.

 

[Gatoravatara]

Pete Carroll

 

[t-gator]

We all know JF is looking for a new coach..

No we don't

 

[Gator Fever]

We all know JF is looking for a new coach. Beating the fckn dead horse everyday is monotonous. I will say this, RZ was the perfect one to follow SOS because NOBODY could follow him, Ron won enough and left us loaded. Urb took em along with timmy and Percy and found gold.

So you are saying Foley is as bad as us? I mean what kind of AD would be looking for another coach behind a coach's back after saying he was still evaluating the season and that Muschamp and the players had the full confidence of Gator Nation.

 

[Gatoravatara]

I've seen this in corporate America. The inability to let go of a bad decision, hoping that it works out in the end

 

[ThreatMatrix]

You make your own luck. Foley didn't support Spurrier in tge Darnell Docket case and Steve left in a huff. Foley caught without a list ended up with Zook. Admittedly he played the Meyer hire brilliantly but then got played by Meyer in esophagus-gate. Allowing Meyer to phone it in for a year while waiting for his dream job....
And then there's Muschamp. Foley gets paid to make the right decisions and outright screwed the pooch in this one. He gets paid to know better not to mention he had to have known about Weiss which was the most asinine hire in the history of asinine hires.
Now he appears to be in CYA mode with champ. Damn Foley man up and fire his ass so that we can get on with it.

 

[2ndAmend]

Yeah, and we won 3 natty's in football with him driving the bus.

True but he did not hire those coaches,,, pumpers have short memories.