Gene Frenette: Mizzou, UGa now must-wins for Florida's Muschamp

[Gatoravatara]

"We’re going to find out in the next 18 days whether the Florida Gators are truly determined to save Will Muschamp’s job. Because frankly, nothing less than the Gators emptying their tank, and having some luck along the way, is going to keep their leader from a pink slip."

https://jacksonville.com/sports/col...ne-frenette-mizzou-uga-now-must-wins-floridas

 

[TheDouglas78]

"We’re going to find out in the next 18 days whether the Florida Gators are truly determined to save Will Muschamp’s job. Because frankly, nothing less than the Gators emptying their tank, and having some luck along the way, is going to keep their leader from a pink slip."

https://jacksonville.com/sports/col...ne-frenette-mizzou-uga-now-must-wins-floridas

Joe Girvan said the same on the radio this morning on my drive in. Also said that Dan Mullen would be a bad hire for Florida.

 

[Gatoravatara]

Why did he say that Mullen would be a bad hire? Because he has had only 1 good year?

 

[GatorStud]

 

[TheDouglas78]

Why did he say that Mullen would be a bad hire? Because he has had only 1 good year?

One good year, lack of production, and a few other reasons. On the funny side he also mentioned that Jimbo is probably going down with the ship at FSU. Said that he is showing he has his players backs, but also that he is getting in over his head.

 

[Gatoravatara]

Who did he suggest replace Muschamp?

 

[Ray Finkle]

Why did he say that Mullen would be a bad hire? Because he has had only 1 good year?

One good year, lack of production, and a few other reasons. On the funny side he also mentioned that Jimbo is probably going down with the ship at FSU. Said that he is showing he has his players backs, but also that he is getting in over his head.

So he will need a job, and we will need a coach. Jimbo will be our next coach.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Who did he suggest replace Muschamp?

Didn't suggest anyone, just was mentioning how there is a ground swell of support for Mullen due to the season he is having. Said it would be an upgrade, but not a true fit at Florida.

 

[Alagator]

Joe Girvan said the same on the radio this morning on my drive in. Also said that Dan Mullen would be a bad hire for Florida.

Hugh Freeze. I think he'd be a homerun hire. May not be able to pull him from Ole Miss though, as he is from that area and is probably treated like a god and I'm sure he relishes the idea that's he's been able to resurrect a long dead program. From a coaching stand point, I'd think it would be a good move for him. As an offensive guy, he'd be in perfect position to recruit Florida's speedy elite athletes. He would be in one of the, if not THE best recruiting regions in the country. He could have more talent then he knew what to do with and have a chance to leave the stacked West where he could quite possibly have a reign of Terror in the East that would land him in the SECCG every year. He would have to at least entertain the notion... right?

Dan Mullen: Not sure what to make of him. Is this year an anomaly or has he really rebuilt MSU and this is the new norm. Perhaps, he's taken his first time head coaching lumps and now that's he's done that and learned from them, he'll be a premier coach moving forward. I'm not sold on him but it's certainly a possibility.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Hugh Freeze. I think he'd be a homerun hire. May not be able to pull him from Ole Miss though, as he is from that area and is probably treated like a god and I'm sure he relishes the idea that's he's been able to resurrect a long dead program. From a coaching stand point, I'd think it would be a good move for him. As an offensive guy, he'd be in perfect position to recruit Florida's speedy elite athletes. He would be in one of the, if not THE best recruiting regions in the country. He could have more talent then he knew what to do with and have a chance to leave the stacked West where he could quite possibly have a reign of Terror in the East that would land him in the SECCG every year. He would have to at least entertain the notion... right?

Dan Mullen: Not sure what to make of him. Is this year an anomaly or has he really rebuilt MSU and this is the new norm. Perhaps, he's taken his first time head coaching lumps and now that's he's done that and learned from them, he'll be a premier coach moving forward. I'm not sold on him but it's certainly a possibility.

As far as Freeze, I'm not completely sold on Freeze, but I would assume he would take an upgrade of coaching and move to Florida outside of family or other reasons. I thought he said he is from the area in an interview (Oxford, MS), but could be wrong. That would be the only reason i see him staying.

Personally I'm not sold on Mullen, so far he has done a good job at Mississippi State, but his best year (this year) is during a down year for the rest of the conference? You need to have heisman level dual threat quarterback talent to properly run his offense. You just can depend on having that year in and year out even at Florida. I prefer an offense mind that can adjust to his talent (though he did a decent job with Leak).

 

[Gatoravatara]

So he will need a job, and we will need a coach. Jimbo will be our next coach.

Ugh.

 

[TheDouglas78]

So he will need a job, and we will need a coach. Jimbo will be our next coach.

 

[WobbleGator]

So he will need a job, and we will need a coach. Jimbo will be our next coach.

 

[Gatoravatara]

Dan Mullen: Not sure what to make of him. Is this year an anomaly or has he really rebuilt MSU and this is the new norm. Perhaps, he's taken his first time head coaching lumps and now that's he's done that and learned from them, he'll be a premier coach moving forward. I'm not sold on him but it's certainly a possibility.

This is what people are saying about Muschamp. Or at least Foley. Now that he has taken his lumps that next year will be a banner year.

 

[Alagator]

On the funny side he also mentioned that Jimbo is probably going down with the ship at FSU.

Agreed. This is what I said in a thread yesterday:

Saw Jimbob on ESPN this morning vehemently denying any wrong doing and fervently defending Rapeis. It's sickening really, to see such enabling happening..., Jimbob is realizing more and more, his future is tied to JW. I think Jimbubba NEEDS JW to get away with it all at this point. He realizes that's he's built a house of cards and when one falls the whole thing will come crashing down around him. He will never live down the stench of JW if the truth comes out...and he knows it.

 

[ntcrze]

I don't know if losing to Georgia will be enough to make Foley pull the plug on Muschamp. Muschamp is a great coach. That's his story and he's sticking to it. There's an idiot recruiting guru, Mike Farrell, who says Muschamp should be retained even if UF goes 7-5 or 6-6. He says the reason is because of the supposed recruiting bonanza that awaits if Muschamp is given another year. Let's hope Foley doesn't read it, he'll probably agree and use that rationale as an excuse to keep Muschamp. In the first place, who cares about recruiting? UF has recruited as well as anyone not named Alabama and where has that gotten them? A Gator Bowl win? It's like expecting Wimpy to actually pay up on hamburgers. Hasn't Farrell , or anyone else for that matter, figured out that recruiting hasn't been a problem, yet the product on the field is still mediocre? Recruiting was one of the excuses for retaining Muschamp last year, that dog won't hunt any more. Anyway, recruiting is relative, even if Muschamp is retained, it won't mean that UF will recruit better than FSU , Georgia, or even Tennessee.

 

[PaulDrake]

"We’re going to find out in the next 18 days whether the Florida Gators are truly determined to save Will Muschamp’s job. Because frankly, nothing less than the Gators emptying their tank, and having some luck along the way, is going to keep their leader from a pink slip."

https://jacksonville.com/sports/colle...-wins-floridas

That's a pretty brutal assessment by Frenette. What I find interesting about it is the local sports spinning heads keep telling me Champer is only a couple of plays from being 4-1 as opposed to Frenette's assessment about being a couple of plays from being 0-4 in the SEC. I'm starting to hear talk nationally now for the first time Champer is in trouble. 1010xl was quoting a source close to Foley as saying HE had not heard anything specific but if Mizzou beats the Gators on Saturday then he would not be surprised to see Champer get the Kiffin treatment right then.

Wow. I didn't expect to start hearing this stuff until the FSU game.

 

[SavannahGator]

Didn't suggest anyone, just was mentioning how there is a ground swell of support for Mullen due to the season he is having. Said it would be an upgrade, but not a true fit at Florida.

Not a "true fit"???? Exactly how did he not "fit" in at UF when he was guiding our offense to a NC in 2006, massive numbers of yards and a Heisman Trophy for Tim (despite a 9-4 record) in 2007, and massive numbers of yards, points, and another NC in 2008? That comment just makes no sense.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Not a "true fit"???? Exactly how did he not "fit" in at UF when he was guiding our offense to a NC in 2006, massive numbers of yards and a Heisman Trophy for Tim (despite a 9-4 record) in 2007, and massive numbers of yards, points, and another NC in 2008? That comment just makes no sense.

Wasn't my comment, you can follow him on twitter and ask him. But I do not think he is a good candidate, because what has he really done as a Head Coach. If Alabama and Auburn were not having down years, would he be in the conversation? If the SEC powers were not bad this year would we be talking about Mullen? Before this year, would he be a someone who has shown the ability to be Head Coach at a top 5 NCAA Football School? No.

 

[soflagator]

Not a "true fit"???? Exactly how did he not "fit" in at UF when he was guiding our offense to a NC in 2006, massive numbers of yards and a Heisman Trophy for Tim (despite a 9-4 record) in 2007, and massive numbers of yards, points, and another NC in 2008? That comment just makes no sense.

I don't get it either. I've heard he's not extremely well liked. Well neither was Meyer. But many of the old-guard loved Zook and obviously have given WM more of a pass than was expected. So how about we go after someone who isn't all that well liked again.