Grantham STAYING; assistant coach hires & fires

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  1. Theologator

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    If Robinson comes as Co-DC or DC and secondary coordinator it will be a significant upgrade. The article on 247 said Mullen is looking to improve recruiting in staff replacements. That’s all moving in the right direction. I agree Grantham should go.
     
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      We have a Star Wars room, where “The Empire Strikes Back” is on continuous loop in the weeks leading up to NSD. Does that count.
       
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        This comes close to what I think.

        I want Grantham friggin gone yesterday. Like many here, I have never seen such schematically and fundamentally poor defense as what Grantham has brought, especially this season. Mullen needs to make this change to restore what teeny, tiny, infinitesimally small hope I ever had in him. I still can't fathom how poorly we ended the season and how we actually seemed to regress as the season wore on.

        That said, whacking these morons is a start.
         
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          See now you’re being ridiculous. If there’s any Star Wars playing it’s ROTJ, specifically the Jabba scene with a boozed up, bikini clad Carrie Fisher chained to him. Minus the weird guy at the door, that’s basically every night for Grantham.

          Tough to strategize when your DC keeps excusing himself every half hour to “use the restroom”.
           
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            Grantham...insulted? Has he ever watched a replay of his **** show. The emperor has no clothes.
             
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              Did you see what ended up happening to Bib Fortuna, that weird guy at the door?

               
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              Wait, are you suggesting we...I mean I guess it would eliminate the buyouts...
               
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                I would go with personality and scapegoat. Even though schemes vary, basically every D scheme will have a tiny bit of every technique (zone, off-man, press-man, etc). CB coaching might actually vary less than any other position based on scheme. Plus, if an experienced coach like Gray felt he wasn't getting a small part (which I don't actually think could be true) he'd have enough contacts that he'd make a call and be put in touch with another coach that does it all the time.

                My guess is the disagreement/turmoil is that granthem wants to disguise things at the expense of being in position (have guys be off the line at the snap) and Gray thinks it's making his guys look like shlt. For example, I'd guess a lot of our CBs playing off is actually to show cover-3/4 looks and protect our safeties so the O doesn't know the safety is man on the slot.
                 
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                  Thank you for gator baseball and softball. At least we have that.
                   
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                      TIFWIW, but I am hearing...

                      decision to keep Grantham was buyout $ related, and a decision made above Mullen.

                      If true, I’m sure that wouldn’t create a toxic environment.
                       
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                        Wouldnt surprise me in the slightest.
                         
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                          Mullen just, more than likely, sealed his fate. I was probably more supportive of Mullen than most around here but the end to the season has highlighted some character flaws that will be hard to overcome. Winners win and losers lose. Mullen talked a good game about being competitive and winning in thumb wrestling. Well that must not carryover to the football field. His arrogance cost us the LSU game. Sitting Pitts is not a big deal on its own. But when you do it in the fashion that he did you’re showing the players that this should be easy. Like we’re Alabama and we’ll just walk over them anyway. Fatal mistake for a team with so many flaws. And the most egregious of mistakes is retaining Todd. How can you walk in to living rooms and tell families you’ll take care of their son when half the defense is playing out of position? Who does that benefit? A few of the guys now should be considering a lawsuit for how they’ve been grossly mismanaged. Burney looked like he never played football before. But you can’t blame him. He’s not an ILB. Dean looks like the best safety on the team yet Davis and Stiner start over him. I could go on and on. At this point maybe Mullen is the one that needs to move on.

                          Next year I don’t care about wins and losses. Mullen needs to show that he’s serious about winning or maybe he can go back to Starkville. Crazy thing is he’s actually a really good on field coach. But if he doesn’t have the balls to be the head man at UF we need to cut bait.
                           
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                            Decision to keep Joe Lee Dunn Jr. was about pennies? That is just more UNsurprising news coming from the ATH. Dept.
                             
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                              Damn, that is real disappointing to hear. These buyouts are ridiculously dumb and they hold programs back from getting better.
                               
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                                I think you might be confusing scoring a lot of points as being a good on field coach? I think actually he is a SHYTTY on field/in game coach. Brutally mismanaging the clock TWICE in the biggest game of the year in easy clock management situations shows you are a shytty on field coach. Letting a QB run power 2 plays in a row when your OLine sux and your QB is as mobile as Frankenstein shows you are not good on the field. Calling zero coverage on D and having your DB showing outside leverage, shows you are a shytty on field coach. Game after game after game these things occur. The 9-3 or 8-4 records hide this to most. But every week there are 10-12 obvious situations that are complete head scratchers that make a huge difference. Given our financial shortcomings and our admin lethargy, it is those 10-12 plays each game that a competent HC will ace and put us at a level where we might have a small chance of competing at the very top. Consistently competing at the very top takes total commitment at the very top, which we do not have.
                                 
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                                  Good.

                                  A loser hired another loser. Then gave him a raise to make him one of the highest paid DCs in football, bc he knows he's not smart enough to find one the 100 guys better. Now it will contribute to us fixing the major mistake quicker.
                                   
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                                    I think Mullen is a good to very good, but not excellent, Offensive Coordinator. He’s not a very good Head Coach at all. While he has shown an ability to adapt his offense to the skills of his QB, his stubbornly trying to revert back to his preferred scheme mid-game is what keeps him from being an excellent OC.
                                     
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                                        Let’s assume this is accurate. This means it doesn’t matter what coach is brought in, the university isn’t interested in winning. Saban just needs to ask for something and it is done. How many buyout has barn made over the years. Dabo and Jimbo get whatever they want. This is much worse than Mullinz being incompetent.
                                         

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