Happy 4th of July

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  1. Ancient Reptile

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    Listening to both sides:

    Side One:
    Build the wall.
    NATO should meet their obligations.
    Trade should be fair.
    Support law enforcement.

    Side two:
    No borders.
    Ask NATO in private and don't embarrass us by saying something when they do nothing.
    For gosh sakes, don't start a trade war.
    Cops are pigs and ICE should be abolished.


    Now that I have listened to both sides, how do I build that bridge?
     
    • Ancient Reptile

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      Interesting point. I voted for the candidate and not the party last week, and likely will do so in November. I can do that because this state will vote Republican regardless. If my vote for a superior, but Democratic, candidate might change how the Senate was organized, I might not vote for the candidate.
       
    • BNAG8R

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      • EyeDocGator

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        They Don’t Dare Tell You the Real Meaning of July 4

        4th July 2018 Tom Woods

        Independence Day is coming up, and I wonder how many people really get why it matters.

        In school, we were told this: “No taxation without representation.”

        Zzzzzzzz.

        The real principles were more like the following.

        (1) No legislation without representation.

        The colonists insisted that they could be governed only by the colonial legislatures. This is the principle of self-government.

        This is why a Supreme Court ordering localities around is anti-American in the truest sense. It operates according to the opposite principle from the one the American colonists stood for.

        (2) Contrary to the modern Western view of the state that it must be considered one and indivisible, the colonists believed that a smaller unit may withdraw from a larger one. Today we are supposed to consider this unthinkable.

        (3) The colonists’ view of the (unwritten) British constitution was that Parliament could legislate only in those areas that had traditionally been within the purview of the British government. Customary practice was the test of constitutionality. The Parliament’s view, on the other hand, was in effect that the will and act of Parliament sufficed to make its measures constitutional.

        So the colonists insisted on strict construction, if you will, while the British held to more of a “living, breathing” view of the Constitution. Sound familiar?

        So let’s recap: local self-government, secession, and strict construction. Not exactly the themes you learned in school.

        And not even what you’ll learn in graduate school.

        One day I decided I had to know what my fellow Columbia Ph.D. students thought Independence Day was all about.

        What could these left-liberals be celebrating? They don’t favor local self-government, which is what the war was all about. They don’t favor strict construction of the Constitution, while the colonists were insisting on precisely that, in a British context.

        So what the heck did they think it was all about?

        Only one person answered me: “There was a distance involved.”

        So the problem was that the ruling class was too far away?

        “Come on, men, we must continue making sacrifices so that we may someday have exploiters who live close by!”

        I don’t think so.
         
        • gardnerwebbgator

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          I never have voted a straight ticket in my life, and feel that having that option at the top of a ballot is an easy way for the Democratic party especially to take advantage of poor and uneducated voters to get them to the voting booth to fill in one circle on the ballot.

          I'll be voting for two Dems for local County Commission seats this November. I know both, both good people.
           
          • Swamp Donkey

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            Happy birthday, Mericuh!!!
             
          • stephenPE

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            And then inquiring minds want to know........is it also happy birthday :law:............end the mystery............
             
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            Werent we all born on the Fourth of July?
             
          • Concrete Helmet

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            Pretty much sums it up as far as I'm concerned....We were and still could be very close to losing this country.
             
            • AugustaGator

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              8 words...’People were tired of being taken advantage of’

              And it was easy.
               
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              5




              Finished it for you....
               
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                The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
                 
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                  Happy 4th.
                   

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                        Sas is going to bust a nut reading that. I'm going to give it it's own thread.
                         
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                          I was born exactly 6 months before (or after depending on how you look at it) the 4th of July.
                           
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                          You’re absolutely right...they’re called republicans.
                           
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