Have Our Coaches Prejudged K. Toney Wrong?

[rogdochar]

By the thread title, I'm asking could Toney be another QB similar to Lamar Jackson of Louisville? Do you really have adequate confidence in the Mac consortium at talent evaluation, QB-development or use? Disgust please.

>> correction = last word in the title should be Wrongly. Sorry.

 

[Floridagator]

He could be, and no.

 

[ChiefGator]

Perhaps but our offense is not designed to do what they do. Part of our problem is our offense does not stress opposing defenses with a highly mobile QB as do many current college teams. Even NFL teams have come to decide that such stress is essential in many ways, unless you have say Tom Brady as your QB and his weapons.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I seriously doubt their assessments. He has a quick release and was very accurate in HS. Doesnt have a cannon but who cares especially when this offense is a screen pass offense anyway.

BTW, if never understood acreen pass offenses. High risk (pick 6 if CB guesses correctly) and low gain.

Sos made top 20 offenses with walkon QBs. Butters cant make top 100 offense with 4 stars.

 

[revgator]

Of course they misjudged. I'm not even saying that with malice.
Toney is currently playing out of position but is a naturally gifted playmaker with the ball in his hands.
I could only imagine that with the same coaching that Mac gave to claribelle, Franks or Toney would be formidable.

 

[PastyStoole]

>> correction = last word in the title should be Wrongly. Sorry.

They misjudged him *Bigly.* He should have the ball in his hands on every play.

 

[stephenPE]

They misjudged him *Bigly.* He should have the ball in his hands on every play.

or every other play...........a decoy can open up all kinds of lanes for the FR Rb

 

[LighthouseGator]

Yes, as did every other P5 coach who refused to recruit him as a QB (Mac was the exception in that regard at least).

 

[78]

He's probably as elusive as Vick with Virginia Tech 17 years ago, which is to say he'd be near impossible to sack without pressure from multiple sides. Even then, he's so shifty and quick.

How good a passer is he? We may never know unless Franks goes down.

We stopped being a good developer/evaluator of passing ability when SOS left.

 

[gatormandan]

How good a passer is he? We may never know unless Franks goes down.

Doubt we know then. Zaire will be the next QB if Franks goes down.

 

[Renard904]

Lol... Have you guys ever coached any level of football? Thats not how it works. Coaches don't generally hold players back. Of course there's exceptions to the rule, but usually when you step on a practice field the most talented players are easily identified. I understand your unwavering hope, but I'm guessing he's not playing QB because he isn't any good. You need more than quickness, speed and agility to be L. Jackson. CFB is full of great athletes. If it were that easy everyone would have a dynamic QB.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Yes, as did every other P5 coach who refused to recruit him as a QB (Mac was the exception in that regard at least).

Butters moved him to WR immediately and only let him pretend to play quarterback in the spring because Zaire wasn't here yet and delrio was hurt still.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Coaches don't generally hold players back. Of course there's exceptions to the rule, but usually when you step on a practice field the most talented players are easily identified.

LOL is right. These coaches are clueless about which kids are the most talented.

McCoy
Toney
Davis
Slaton
Conliffe


And that is just in the last few weeks.

You almost wonder if the coaches attend practices or perhaps if they hold practices at all.

 

[Ancient Reptile]

I thought he should play QB when I saw the spring game. I wish we just had a series of plays for him out of the QB position.

 

[78]

Lol... Have you guys ever coached any level of football? Thats not how it works. Coaches don't generally hold players back. Of course there's exceptions to the rule, but usually when you step on a practice field the most talented players are easily identified. I understand your unwavering hope, but I'm guessing he's not playing QB because he isn't any good. You need more than quickness, speed and agility to be L. Jackson. CFB is full of great athletes. If it were that easy everyone would have a dynamic QB.

That must explain why Mac had Will Grier and Treon Harris even over the first three games of 2015.

 

[78]

LOL is right. These coaches are clueless about which kids are the most talented.

McCoy
Toney
Davis
Slaton
Conliffe


And that is just in the last few weeks.

You almost wonder if the coaches attend practices or perhaps if they hold practices at all.

I honestly think this may be where we trust his judgment the least.

 

[Jbossgator8]

Toney should be saying, "Give me the dang ball!!"

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I honestly think this may be where we trust his judgment the least.

I struggle to think of a strength.

I'm sure he probably sees it. He has to see it, right? Imo he just is so conservative that instinctively he prefers to play the upperclassmen even when the talent gap is wide.

 

[Caloosahatchee]

That must explain why Mac had Will Grier and Treon Harris even over the first three games of 2015.

I also seem to remember reading reports that Tebow was a poor practice player.... I'm not comparing the two as QB, but some guys are just gamers.