How did UF handle their Winston?

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We had the same problem with a cocky idiot. We got rid of our disgrace. He then went to Auburn and won a Heisman and a NC. Yeah it may of cost us some hardware but we very well could have allowed that to happen at our school. (Allow him to run around unchecked) Your school, your program and your hardware will always be under fire for your raping, stealing, dirty team. Not just player. Fsux hitched their wagon to this monster. That school and him are one and the same. Enjoy your ride. Be scrong
 

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How did you come up with such a creative screen name?
 

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Completely different set of circumstances, really. Plus Cam quit on his own and transferred to a JC, he wasn't kicked off the team.
 

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Floridagator;n55078 said:
We had the same problem with a cocky idiot. We got rid of our disgrace. He then went to Auburn and won a Heisman and a NC. Yeah it may of cost us some hardware but we very well could have allowed that to happen at our school. (Allow him to run around unchecked) Your school, your program and your hardware will always be under fire for your raping, stealing, dirty team. Not just player. Fsux hitched their wagon to this monster. That school and him are one and the same. Enjoy your ride. Be scrong

Very unique take on the situation!
 

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I thought this was an Aaron Hernandez thread.
 

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Ox was already taken. You beat me to it back in the 90's at the GSMB
 

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"When Cameron Newton left the University of Florida it was assumed the major reason was because of his arrest on charges of stealing a laptop. According to FoxSports.com, Newton also faced a possible expulsion from school due to three separate instances of academic cheating."

Yup, high road Cam "decided" to leave.
 

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True. We did not handle him and was not kicked off the team. He bolted before expulsion. Would have been interesting if left up to the Coaching staff what would have happened. This became public, and that itself will make it totally different.
 

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TN G8tr;n55114 said:
True. We did not handle him and was not kicked off the team. He bolted before expulsion.

Link? Your azz doesn't count as a source. "It was assumed" isn't a source. You think they were going to boot Newton for petty theft when they didn't boot Hernandez for attempted murders? If the State were going to charge him, they would have done it regardless of whether or not he went to Kansas. Same thing for any admin sanctions. The university proceeds so that the kid can't just transfer back down the road.
 

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Law98gator;n55124 said:
Link? Your azz doesn't count as a source. "It was assumed" isn't a source. You think they were going to boot Newton for petty theft when they didn't boot Hernandez for attempted murders? If the State were going to charge him, they would have done it regardless of whether or not he went to Kansas. Same thing for any admin sanctions. The university proceeds so that the kid can't just transfer back down the road.

That's exactly what I thought and still think. That is why I put "interesting to see what the coaching staff would have done." I didnt put assume either but leaving school that was a fact. Always thought he would have not been kicked off for the laptop,.
 

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This is casual conversation on a message board lets not get all bent Out of shape. Just go look at fsu 24/7 messageboard, these guys cannot figure out why Jameis is being punished for cussing. These guys are that stupid.
 

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Floridagator said:
This is casual conversation on a message board lets not get all bent Out of shape. Just go look at fsu 24/7 messageboard, these guys cannot figure out why Jameis is being punished for cussing. These guys are that stupid.
Agreed. that kind of went sideways there!
 

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Quick question, if you are expelled from school how the hell can you play football. That'd be pretty crazy. I'd imagine if expelled you don't have to worry about suspending someone from the team...lol. I know it is all conjecture.
 

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Law98gator;n55124 said:
You think they were going to boot Newton for petty theft when they didn't boot Hernandez for attempted murders?
Yeah, we all knew Hernandez was a killer while at UF and looked the other way. :rolleyes:

Moronic comment, even for you.
 

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oxrageous;n55145 said:
Yeah, we all knew Hernandez was a killer while at UF and looked the other way. :rolleyes:

Moronic comment, even for you.

Actually Ox, I had a thread deleted on the old gsmb because of just this. There were issues surrounding Hernandez and a coach(es) were let go directly as a result of his (AH) actions. I am friends with some former players parents and was let in on some of this. Yes, "murder" was mentioned. I was told it was the result of some Hernandez and associates gang-banging. I knew he was a thug, but I really didn't believe the "murder" part. There were actually two separate incidences of Hernandez and his boys gunning someone. One guy died, one didn't. The guy that died was never pinned on him. The guy that was shot and didn't die was paid off. This second guy has been brought up again after his more recent actions. Again, I didn't believe (or didn't want to believe) it at the time. Now I know better.
 

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ufgator812 said:
oxrageous;n55145 said:
Yeah, we all knew Hernandez was a killer while at UF and looked the other way. :rolleyes:

Moronic comment, even for you.

Actually Ox, I had a thread deleted on the old gsmb because of just this. There were issues surrounding Hernandez and a coach(es) were let go directly as a result of his (AH) actions. I am friends with some former players parents and was let in on some of this. Yes, "murder" was mentioned. I was told it was the result of some Hernandez and associates gang-banging. I knew he was a thug, but I really didn't believe the "murder" part. There were actually two separate incidences of Hernandez and his boys gunning someone. One guy died, one didn't. The guy that died was never pinned on him. The guy that was shot and didn't die was paid off. This second guy has been brought up again after his more recent actions. Again, I didn't believe (or didn't want to believe) it at the time. Now I know better.
I remember a thread on it but nothing ever made it to the media really on those accusations.
 

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oxrageous said:
Law98gator;n55124 said:
You think they were going to boot Newton for petty theft when they didn't boot Hernandez for attempted murders?
Yeah, we all knew Hernandez was a killer while at UF and looked the other way. :rolleyes:

Moronic comment, even for you.
i get so sick of this retroactive Hernandez stuff. Give me a break. First, you can't believe everything media generated through partial facts or rumors ( I mean sources) about his UF time, Secondly, at least at the beginning, the Mass prosecutor's office was releasing all they could imply without needing to be factual to the media who didn't investigate and went with sensationalism instead of investigation,. Prosecutor office did this in order to support their case. I am not commenting on his guilt, This is an observation of what was agreed to in court, and what was released back at the early stages when I still bothered to follow it.
There is an adversarial process at play in the legal system. It is about winning, and often about political aspirations. The prosecutor presentation at the arraingment was taken as fact, and he not only contradicted himself a few times, as when the forensics he read contradicted his statements about the guy being shot in the back , but at other times. People took theory for fact when at least at that point it was not news releases and investigations into gainesville happenings in news color the Jury pool.

Schools are not responsible for what their players do the rest of their lives after they leave.

We are talking GPD and ACSO here not TPD. Give me a break. Urbs was not THAT powerful.
 

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