Impeachment Going Down Today

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    Incorrect, the house impeaches the Senate convicts.
     
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      Current Politico Poll
      Should Congress begin impeachment proceedings?

      Yes
      21%

      No
      78%

      No opinion
      1%
       
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        Just wondering if anyone gives a sht to know if Biden has committed any crimes?
         
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          There’s big reason for concern when it comes to Joe Biden and his son with respect to Ukraine and China. But the media doesn’t care about that. All they care about is what Trump says and does and how they can use that to impeach him. It’s pathetic and corrupt.
           
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            You obviously haven't been paying attention. "Judge" Nap hasn't been a republican since Trump was elected. He too seems scared of something. It ain't Trump they're afraid of. It's his pledge to clean up the swamp that scares the hell out of them.
             
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              Actually Nap wanted a Federal Judge appointment and did not get one.
               
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                And there's a reason he didn't...
                 
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                  You remember trump put out a list during the campaign of judges he would appoint? Nap wasn't on it and very quickly became a never Trumper screecher. Joe DiGenova raked him over the coals last week,
                   
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                    To quote Gerald Ford from back in the early 70s: "An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers to be at a given moment in history." Bearing this in mind, they actually can impeach him on rhetoric if they wish. Personally, I think it would be politically foolish and set a horrible precedent, but they seem hell-bent.
                     
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                      Where are you getting these numbers?

                      Support for impeaching Trump hits new high



                      In the POLITICO/Morning Consult poll, 46 percent of voters said Congress should begin impeachment proceedings vs. 43 percent who said they should not. Eleven percent had no opinion. That support represented a 3-point bump from last week, when voters were evenly split.

                      The new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll comes as at least a half-dozen other media outlets have released surveys showing support for impeachment rising. The polls suggest that Democrats are gaining support for the impeachment inquiry as the Ukraine scandal unspools.
                       
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                      It's a political call and a very dumb one on the part of the Dems. You cannot convict in the Senate based on innuendo.
                       
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                        From the online poll Dookie.
                         
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                        You don't see this in the media because it's already been investigated and it was determined that Biden didn't do anything wrong. I don't like Biden, I'm a Warren supporter, but I have to defend the idiot because the constant repeating of this false narrative is wrong.
                         
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                          Which Government entity investigated this? Where is the summary report?
                           
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                            This is true and the other half of Ford's quote is apropos here: "conviction results from whatever offense or offenses two-thirds of the other body considers to be sufficiently serious to require removal of the accused from office."
                            The relevant historical event is the Clinton impeachment. Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice and the evidence certainly supported both charges. The Senate did not deem the facts surrounding either offense sufficient for removal. And that was that.
                             
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                              Hell I did not think Clinton should have been impeached over it even though I loathed the guy. He did get disbarred over it.
                               
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                              Of course it is. That was when all the lights came on as to why he can't stay in the WH. Best economy we have had since Clinton, Trade policy is working and unemployment way down and not a word. People inside the beltway don't suffer those woes one way or the other. Their lives are good no matter what the rest of the country is feeling and yet some of the dumbasses think they really give a sht.
                               
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                                While there were many Clinton loathers who were happy to go after him for any reason possible, the reality was they were in an awkward position; The Starr report clearly demonstrated that Clinton had broken the law (not going to get into it here whether he went too far afield of the original mandate for his investigation). In that scenario, the House has to either impeach or justify that breaking the law is not necessarily impeachable. Better to impeach and let the Senate say yes the law was broken, but not to the level where a President should be removed. I have no love lost for Bill Clinton, but I think it was the right thing to do.
                                 
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                                  Maybe the right thing to do because there was an actual law broken but politically it was a loser. IMO no impeachment meant no second term for the corrupt Clintons.
                                   
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                                  It figures some limp wristed ****** like you would post a picture of a soccer net in reference to goal posts.
                                   
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