In America, talk turns to something unspoken for 150 years: Civil war

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  1. g8tr72

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    Opine.

    Of course, it's entirely Trump's fault.


    In America, talk turns to something unspoken for 150 years: Civil war
     
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    The shift in the Democratic party is where the war began. There are numerous socialist candidates running as Democrats which in essence means the Democrats can just change their name to the Socialist party. The things that built America and made America the greatest country in the world are the antithesis of socialism. People who understand that and see the Democrats attempting to destroy the things that we hold dear as Americans is the cause of the problem. Take away Trump's bluster and personality and just look at his policies and tell me where is he so different from the policies of past Republicans and even Democrats? He's not. It's the Democrats who are now the party of open borders, infanticide, inhibiting free speech, denigrating the flag, denigrating the country because "it never was great", denigrating and wanting to punish those who succeed because "they didn't build that", normalizing mental illness, making political correctness the rule of the day, and just plain losing their minds.
     
    • Gatoravatara

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      Conservatives who dont win elections want to start a civil war. Losers with nothing going for them and nothing to lose want to participate in them.
       
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      • divits

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        I guess you missed the 2016 election. Conservatives won and the Democrats refused to accept it and have been trying ever since to overthrow it.
         
        • Bait'n Gator

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          What in the hell does this even mean? Name one conservative who's lost an election that's trying to start a civil war. I swear to god, I don't know how you remember to breath sometimes.
           
          • Thought Criminal

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            Dems of the party of race-baiters, paid rioters, anarchists, and jihadists in Congress. But you already knew that.

            I really don't understand how allegedly intelligent people who can string together 10 words into a sentence could choose to be Democrats these days, but somehow they still exist.
             
            • shabadoo25

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              Funny, it seems like a lot of outgoing state officials who lost in 2018 tried to jerry rig power for the GOP on their way out.

              The "no socialism" argument is dumb on many levels. The modern, stupid definition of socialism (Citizen A pays for stuff that benefits Citizen B) has always existed here. Highways, fire departments and public parks all fit the current right wing definition of socialism. The ongoing fight is just over the degree it is indulged. The pendulum swings left or right every 8 years or so.
               
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                The American Revolution was essentially a civil war (between England and it's subjects here in the US). It happened because the subjects here grew weary of being oppressively ruled and taxed without representation.

                The US Civil war began because states in the south grew weary of being heavily oppressively ruled and taxed without seeing reasonable benefit.

                If we have another civil war, it will likely be because of being oppressively ruled and taxed beyond reason.

                If you want to point a finger at which party is likely to drive the country to civil war, look at the party that looks to most heavily regulate and legislate, and to impose the highest tax burden on the tax-paying citizenry. That would be the Democrats.
                 
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                  No, actually you are dumb on many levels. You choose the typical approach of most socialists when you try equating public works as socialism. The socialism being proposed by the Democratic party of today is exactly like the socialism proposed in the most strident (and failing) socialist countries. Bernie Sanders, the leading Democratic candidate right now has called for the government take over of private companies. He thinks that Castro and Chavez were great visionaries and that they "got it right" while paying lip service to the fact that they were demagogic and violent dictators. He even thinks bread lines "are a good thing", (his emphasis on "good).

                  You will be voting for an avowed socialist come 2020. No matter how you and your lefty cronies try to run from that fact, you will. Get used to it comrade.
                   
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                    If this country moves towards the fake definition of socialism, the GOP only has themselves to blame.

                    For centuries, everyone was OK with the rich doing well as long as everyone else did too on a lower level. Now, the rich are doing insanely well while everyone else is doing worse than they used to do. The demise of labor unions was a big part of this.
                     
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                        You literally make me laugh out loud, so thanks.

                        First of all, the unions killed themselves. Demanding lifetime benefits with high salaries for putting a nut on a bolt was not sustainable in any model ever. Just look at what public unions have done to cities. Chicago has been bankrupted by their union pension funds. Same is happening to NY. When you've got a firefighter retiring at 42 years old on a $110,000 pension with free healthcare for life you've got a problem that will not be fixed easily.

                        The "rich" you and your ilk are so envious of and obsessed with have nothing to do with how well you or anyone does in life. You're just envious of them and think that it's "not fair". You don't think, "Hey, if they worked hard, sacrificed and took risks to get where they are then maybe I can too!". Nope, you choose to say, "Those people who are wealthy don't deserve what they built.They took that money from the poor!". All of which is total horse$h!t.

                        We are in one of the most prosperous periods in our country's history thanks to capitalism. In fact, capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty and misery than anything in the history of man. Yet you and your idiot cronies want to destroy that because of your petty envy.
                         
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                          We know the true goal of you crazed leftists - suppression of speech that doesn't fit your left wing Utopian views. Your role model is much of Western Europe now where the Govt. can lock someone up for not towing the Govt. perverted leftist progressive viewpoint.
                           
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                            Utter BS. The top 1 aren't doing so great because of their amazing sacrifices. It's because they are pocketing the salaries that used to go to the workers below them and everyone else is working for pennies to finance their 3rd yachts.
                             
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                                We certainly are on the cusp of civil war in this country. I'm not worried though. The Democrats have all done us a great favor by refusing to own or use any evil guns so the war won't last very long.
                                 
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                                  Has there EVER been a statement that illustrates both ignorance and envy so well? I think not.

                                  Let's take away all the billionaires and the companies they started and the millions and millions of jobs their ideas and work have created and the billions and bilions in taxes they have created and lets see how those workers fair.

                                  Why are you so jealous of people who have succeeded in life? Are you a failure? Are you underemployed? Have you not been able to reach your full potential and feel blaming others is therapeutic? You run from the socialist label but you're statements show you to have the traits of a full blown socialist.

                                  How much of my money that I earned do you want?
                                   
                                  • NOLAGATOR

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                                    This is pure shyt.

                                    Race...Really? Where is this an issue in the USA today?

                                    Most major cities have a large share of minority leadership and control: Police, Fire, Mayors...

                                    Where can anybody be denied: a home, a job, entrance…on race?

                                    On who has the money, it’s based on Talent, Ideas, Hard Work, Risk…OR someone did it and passed it on.

                                    It is a fact, if you can hit a curve ball…you’ll make money.

                                    If you can tackle…you’ll make money.

                                    If you come up with an idea…even a stupid APP…you’ll make money

                                    If you can pick stocks…you’ll make money.


                                    Please tell me where any of this is based on race or is unfair? Unless you are unhappy because when they said brains and you thought trains…and missed it… Take that up with your parents and/or your God. Because the POTUS has nothing to do with it.
                                     
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                                      I'd say the side that has stockpiled all the guns and ammo have a slight advantage over the side that has stockpiled dildos.
                                       
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                                        If a civil war is started, you are high on the list of the people I would shoot first.
                                         
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