Insight to Trumps Un-presidential style

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Gatormb, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. shabadoo25

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    The tax cut was a super stimulus to the economy that is already fading. We are retreating back in the direction towards 2% growth from the "sugar high" of when it was passed.

    We are more likely headed to a recession than any more benefit from that debt busting tax cut.
     
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      We are overdue for a recession but we are clearly overperforming most evolved economies where many in Western Europe are way below our growth rates now.

      Not sure when a recession will happen but I think we keep outperforming most of those other economies.
       
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        Carter? but his opponent Ford was pretty bland.
         
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        Charisma is inherently a matter of opinion. You are not a very logical Vulcan.
         
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        Only by traditional measures are we "overdue" for a recession. By those same measures our growth after the last severe one was way too slow.

        The conclusion that I have made is that since things in the world (and US) economy are much different than the past so such measures are no longer to be relied upon.

        Just my personal opinion, worthless to anybody other than me.
         
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          Vulcan does not post here anymore, but I agree that Charisma is a matter of opinion, but the opinions of a group can be estimated in several ways.
           
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          Maybe dynamic is a better descriptor then.
           
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          What's growing the economy is cheap money, virtually zero unemployment, ever increasing wages and decreased fuel costs. The tax cut had very little do with anything other than giving people back THEIR money that THEY earned so that they could spend it as they wish and not give it to a bloated pig of a government that would fritter it away.
           
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          The corporate reform has had an impact, so far mostly not in investments directly.

          The pressure on trade has also somewhat grown the economy, but more of that to come.
           
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          Carter?
           
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          Well add another 60 to it. Just not recognized yet,
           
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          I’ve worked directly with Trump. Met him several times. He stiffed me for $600.
           
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            Stormy???
             
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            No... Windy.
             
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                I actually have to have to admit the first part of his point is correct. I can't think of who the last person to be elected to that job who was less charismatic than his opponent (in the general election anyway). Of course, we have had a bunch of uncharismatic (is that a word?) people run over the last few decades.

                Even the ones who even their supporters would describe as meh in this area, they had they the good fortune to run against someone even less so.
                 
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                  Ok, Scooby has made his first somewhat accurate point.
                   
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                    There have been a few who were equally not that charismatic I guess like Bush/Gore and Carter/Ford. Was Humphrey more charismatic than Nixon?

                    In the primaries many of the more charismatic candidates have lost but it does seem to be a lot rarer for the POTUS race.
                     
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                    Color TV had a lot to do with it.

                    And it's a fact, looks matter to the average American.

                    But Trump had NOTHING to do with that. He was elected because he was Trump...not DNC, not RNC, but pure TRUMP.

                    All I got to say is, it's time to Drain DC
                     
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                    I see in the 68 election many people claim Wallace was the most charismatic but he was 3rd party.

                    Some claim Kerry was more charismatic than Bush as a speaker but I didn't think so. Gore I would say at the time was about the same as Bush but not Kerry.
                     

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