Introduction to Transfer Theory 1000

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  1. jaywalker72

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    Fancy title to basically discuss why transfers are:

    A. Not a bad thing at all for Florida

    B. Not an indictment of Dan Mullen

    C. Necessary for the program

    The premise of explaining all of the above is that, finally, more elite recruits can trust the University of Florida again, after three years of incompetence and unprofessional, negligent recruiting by Butters, which has left the depth of this program starved for talent.

    As players sort out their situations at other schools, they can finally come to Gainesville, knowing that solid coaching, improvement and preparation for the professional ranks exists. Additionally, the momentum around the core enthusiasm from the players is drawing attention. Some of these players may have ruled out UF previously, during their initial recruiting, because of the dysfunction here.

    Also, because of the poor structuring of what talent Butters did bring in, there is massive opportunity here to play quickly. Butter's may have swung some recruiting rankings, but the key areas of the trenches were ignored completely. 2020 is going to be a hard year, as it is for any coach that takes over in a situation like Mullen's, where he has to recover from a lack of higher talent upperclassmen. To be able to bring in some players that can help fill these gaps will ease the pain somewhat.

    While I believe that the school has put a significant hindrance in front of themselves in terms of poor coaching hires, poor football, arrogance around facilities, and poor relationships in the state - I also see this staff beginning to mend some of those injuries, but need to emphasize the on the field excitement while a couple of those items take (even more) time to catch up. Transfers like Cox and, hopefully, Joseph, will keep some of that momentum going.

    Transfers are a short term fix - the long term strategy for Mullen has to be:

    1. Taking back the top talent in the state
    2. Balanced roster structure
    3. Excellence in development
    4. Winning, obviously

    But, until they get all the repairs done to what the previous tenant left behind, a short term fix, especially if not sacrificing relationships and culture, is a suitable, and necessary, means to rebuild the program.
     
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      What you said
       
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        Why would any team be against accepting highly regarded transfers?
         
        • Jbossgator8

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          It's a sort of new way to get top players if you miss out on them during recruiting...
           
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            Even at MSU Mullen couldn't entice the top JC grads or Big-U hot transfers. At UF he can get higher ones that slipped seamlessly into top schools' lineups.

            I'd never cross paths with jaywalker. I await the light.
            From a moral standpoint -- "Bet Venice, Italy has no streetwalkers?"
             
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              I have no problem taking transfers as long as the coaches expect them to fill a void in the roster somewhere. We need to get our depth up. Recruiting and bad apples getting in trouble and transferring out has put us behind.
               
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                It will be interesting to see if any of these transfers help with recruiting. For example, let’s say a recruit is considering us or Ugly. Could a Brenton Cox impact the recruit’s decision by telling his story? Naturally, Ugly would discredit Cox as best they could, but I could see telling a story in a matter of fact way that could resonate.
                 
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                    Transfers have saved this team.
                     
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                      Well there are several kinds of transfers:

                      1. Graduate transfers who you know can play and who you take to try to solve in specific roster issues.

                      2. Sit out transfers who you think can play if you really liked them in recruiting or if they have shown some bit of ability at the school they are at. Plus they do not count as signees, I think.

                      3. JUCO transfers who in my view in many cases cause more harm than help to programs and are a sign of a program struggling.

                      I think a coach gets the best talent he can get where ever he can get it. I am all in favor of graduate transfers if you have a need. I am all in favor of sit out transfers if you have the open roster spots. I am less happy with wasting a four/five year signing opportunity on a JUCO with 2 to play 2.
                       
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                      I think a position like DT JUCOs are good pick ups if you have depth issues there and they have the talent to play at an FBS school..
                       
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                        It would be nice to get a couple of JUCO corners at the last minute. Just for depth.
                         
                      • Swamp Donkey

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                        Are you talking about in December?

                        For next fall, I'd much prefer bluechip freshmen. Corner is the easiest position to play on the defense. Freshmen have no trouble doing it reasonably well.
                         
                      • GR8 2B

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                        For whatever it's worth:

                        Football Positions: Ranked by Difficulty

                        The most challenging defensive position is the cornerback. He is usually isolated and must defend both the run and pass. His assignments can be confusing if the defensive scheme is complex. He must be able to run, catch, tackle and defend.
                         
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                          We arent talking about peewee here where all the DT does is stand up and exist. And we aren't talking about which is the most physically challenging, chucklehead.

                          Especially in our defense bc the playbook doesn't change. The CB lines up in man except for the rare corner blitz. There's a reason that true freshmen CBs succeed when it is rare indeed to find a true freshman ready to get on the field.
                           
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                            Aren't beginning courses of study normally numbered 101?
                             
                            • GR8 2B

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                              So far, all you're talking about is your opinion, presented as fact. Got anything that backs you up?
                               
                              • Swamp Donkey

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                                You mean like a "fact" from someone else's webpage of their opinions? :lmao2:
                                 
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                                I just asked a question, Donk. Your lack of an answer is your answer.
                                 

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