Joseph’s Ejection

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So I'm presuming according to the way the rule reads, if there was another incident where the teams came on the field again everybody would have been ejected, game over thanks for coming. Talk about a stupid rule. I see they thought long and hard when they instituted this clusterf**k.
 

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So I'm presuming according to the way the rule reads, if there was another incident where the teams came on the field again everybody would have been ejected, game over thanks for coming. Talk about a stupid rule. I see they thought long and hard when they instituted this clusterf**k.

That!
 

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Let me first say that was some of the most inept officiating I have ever seen. And being a former Ref, those guys should grade out and the SEC will continue doing what they do with them.......the less than marque matchups. That Crew will never see and SECCG, IMO. Several things come to mind.

1. They almost and I mean on the verge of letting that game get out of control.
2. I have no problem with a coach checking on his player if he is hurt. And I don't care who said what to who first. Mason was TOTALLY WRONG on that behavior. Period. That caused his team to vacate the bench first. That should have been a one side USLC penalty.
3. The Rule. Biggest and Dumbest rule ever. I guess we forfeit in the future if there are 2 USLC penalties. Way to go. No reason a player sitting on the bench doing nothing should get tossed. With that rule whatever control you were looking to gain was lost.
4. As always with the SEC officiating to a degree = S-crewed E-very C-all.

Sankey needs to fix this soon. Probably nothing gets done until Saban gets some tossed. Then it'll get corrected.
It's just completely lazy awful officiating. The refs didn't want to look at video and find each number that went onto the field so they just gave each team the unsportsmanlike penalty which is complete BS
 

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Sankey needs to fix this soon. Probably nothing gets done until Saban gets some tossed. Then it'll get corrected.

They showed a stat yesterday on the pre-game show on SEC Network that Alabama is getting the most penalties per game since 2002 this year.....3. THREE! They are averaging THREE penalties a game....and this goes back to 2002, 5 seasons before Saban took over. When is the last time a Florida Gators team only averaged 3 penalties per game? And this goes through Spurrier, Zook, Meyer, Muschamp, Butters, and now Mullen. We know that Spurrier and Muschamp's teams didn't get as many penalties as they got when they were coaching at UF.
 

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Stole this image from gatorcountry. It explains why Joseph was so pissed off being ejected. He stayed away and remained on the sideline when the rest of the team jumped into the field to avoid a second foul. Really ****ty rule.

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Stole this image from gatorcountry. It explains why Joseph was so pissed off being ejected. He stayed away and remained on the sideline when the rest of the team jumped into the field to avoid a second foul. Really ****ty rule.

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Wow that’s incredible. Dude should file a suite. It’s irreparable harm cause he can never get that game back.
 

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It was a ridiculous series of events started by a BS call to begin with IMO. How can it be targeting a defenseless player when you put your shoulder squarely into someone’s chest? Is it his fault the guy wasn’t paying attention to what was IN FRONT OF HIM? Gimme a fuggin break! That was a considered a damn fine block for 100 years and now it’s a penalty worth ejection.
 

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They showed a stat yesterday on the pre-game show on SEC Network that Alabama is getting the most penalties per game since 2002 this year.....3. THREE! They are averaging THREE penalties a game....and this goes back to 2002, 5 seasons before Saban took over. When is the last time a Florida Gators team only averaged 3 penalties per game? And this goes through Spurrier, Zook, Meyer, Muschamp, Butters, and now Mullen. We know that Spurrier and Muschamp's teams didn't get as many penalties as they got when they were coaching at UF.
I explained this years ago/ When SOS coached the officials by and large despised him. He was too cocky and was embarassing our good rivals in the SEC too often for comfort. We had the most penalties of any team in the league most or all of his year. I figured most of the sec officials were insurance salesman from alabama or Georgia. You figure it out.
 

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It was a ridiculous series of events started by a BS call to begin with IMO. How can it be targeting a defenseless player when you put your shoulder squarely into someone’s chest? Is it his fault the guy wasn’t paying attention to what was IN FRONT OF HIM? Gimme a fuggin break! That was a considered a damn fine block for 100 years and now it’s a penalty worth ejection.
Sorry but the rule is pretty clear and he hit him in a way that is against the rule. The guy was a "defenseless" player by the rule:
  • A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass.
  • A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
  • A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return.
  • A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
  • A player on the ground.
  • A player obviously out of the play.
  • A player who receives a blind-side block.
  • A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped.
  • A quarterback any time after a change of possession.
  • A ball carrier who has obviously given himself up and is sliding feet-first
Against a defenseless player, the rule is:
No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder.

Now you may be against the rule, but the call was correct IMO.
 

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Sorry but the rule is pretty clear and he hit him in a way that is against the rule. The guy was a "defenseless" player by the rule:
  • A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass.
  • A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
  • A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return.
  • A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
  • A player on the ground.
  • A player obviously out of the play.
  • A player who receives a blind-side block.
  • A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped.
  • A quarterback any time after a change of possession.
  • A ball carrier who has obviously given himself up and is sliding feet-first
Against a defenseless player, the rule is:
No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder.

Now you may be against the rule, but the call was correct IMO.
I think that the only point in question was whether the contact was to the head or neck area.
 

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A couple of off the field things about this game that seemed odd: (1) What the hell was Greg Sankey doing at THAT game? (2) In an interview after the game he confirmed that, yes, if a team gets two team unsportsmanlike fouls they forfeit the game and get a loss. (3) Just how subjective is that team unsportsmanlike foul? Does someone from higher up have to okay that or does the head field referee make that call? What about the advertisers that paid for spots the rest of the game? Does the SEC refund them? Do the fans get a ticket refund if it happens, say, before half-time? None of this bullshyte makes sense. None of it?
 

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It seems like every single game has a bull**** ejection this season. Did anyone see the linebacker get ejected for tackling the bama running back? I almost threw my beer through my t.v., they desperately need to redo that rule.

Did you see how the Bama DL didn't get ejected for throwing (and landing) multiple punches.

Sorry but the rule is pretty clear and he hit him in a way that is against the rule. The guy was a "defenseless" player by the rule:
  • A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass.
  • A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
  • A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return.
  • A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
  • A player on the ground.
  • A player obviously out of the play.
  • A player who receives a blind-side block.
  • A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped.
  • A quarterback any time after a change of possession.
  • A ball carrier who has obviously given himself up and is sliding feet-first
Against a defenseless player, the rule is:
No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder.

Now you may be against the rule, but the call was correct IMO.

I think where some people may be upset is what is defined as a blind-side block. To me it looked like he got hit pretty square in the chest. Now from the backside camera it did look like he launched himself, which appears to be a no-no this year. At some point you have to make the guy getting hit accountable. If you get hit in the chest you aren't watching where you are going.
 

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Did you see how the Bama DL didn't get ejected for throwing (and landing) multiple punches.

If the league doesn't suspend him for a game it'll be a f'ing crime. He didn't even get a penalty did he? I was flipping back and forth and caught the replay of it, the commentator's (to their credit) were shocked he wasn't ejected. But, that's Bama for you.
 

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Did you see how the Bama DL didn't get ejected for throwing (and landing) multiple punches.



I think where some people may be upset is what is defined as a blind-side block. To me it looked like he got hit pretty square in the chest. Now from the backside camera it did look like he launched himself, which appears to be a no-no this year. At some point you have to make the guy getting hit accountable. If you get hit in the chest you aren't watching where you are going.
I think everybody who watches football knows what a blindside or crackback block is. That was the very definition of one. The guy isn't looking where he's running for the same reason a receiver isn't looking where he's running when catching a pass. He has his eye on the ball. The nature of the block is extremely dangerous and that is why it is regulated. Its no different than regulating other types of blocks such as hitting in the knees, high/low engagement, etc.

Obliterating or hurting your opponent is not a goal of the game of football. It doesn't appear anywhere in the rulebook. You don't get any points for it. Football is a game where one team tries to advance the ball down the field by running and throwing and blocking, while the opponent tries to prevent the advance of the ball by tackling the runner. That's it. And it can be accomplished just as effectively by blocking that guy without launching into his head area and potentially causing a serious injury.
 

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If the league doesn't suspend him for a game it'll be a f'ing crime. He didn't even get a penalty did he? I was flipping back and forth and caught the replay of it, the commentator's (to their credit) were shocked he wasn't ejected. But, that's Bama for you.
And the knee to the back too.
 

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Let me first say that was some of the most inept officiating I have ever seen. And being a former Ref, those guys should grade out and the SEC will continue doing what they do with them.......the less than marque matchups. That Crew will never see and SECCG, IMO. Several things come to mind.

1. They almost and I mean on the verge of letting that game get out of control.
2. I have no problem with a coach checking on his player if he is hurt. And I don't care who said what to who first. Mason was TOTALLY WRONG on that behavior. Period. That caused his team to vacate the bench first. That should have been a one side USLC penalty.
3. The Rule. Biggest and Dumbest rule ever. I guess we forfeit in the future if there are 2 USLC penalties. Way to go. No reason a player sitting on the bench doing nothing should get tossed. With that rule whatever control you were looking to gain was lost.
4. As always with the SEC officiating to a degree = S-crewed E-very C-all.

Sankey needs to fix this soon. Probably nothing gets done until Saban gets some tossed. Then it'll get corrected.

FWIW, I heard on XM radio broadcast while I was driving to our GC's bar that the ref calling the game is the youngest in the SEC, at 44. I don't know if his age lead to any judgement issues.

Just a guess, but if there are two team Unsportsmanlike penalties, is it the HC that takes the fall? Is HE ejected? No idea. In any case, there is no way that a team would be forced to forfeit for two team Unsportsmanlikes.
 

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Apparently it is an SEC rule, it needs to be reviewed and in my view changed. Same with the targeting rule, sure it says a lot of very specific things, all of them should only apply above the shoulder hits. You can't make football safe unless it is tag and no blocking and even then you could hurt yourself.
 

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