Judge informs Richard Simmons that being called a transgender is not defamation

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    Judge Tells Richard Simmons That Being Called Transgender Is Not Defamation | JDJournal

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    American Media filed an anti-SLAPP motion to dismiss Simmons’ complaint, and it said that the publications were protected by the First Amendment and that statements that someone is transgender are not harmful to someone’s reputation and therefore not defamation.

    Judge Keosian said that for Simmons to win a defamation case he would need to prove an injury to one’s reputation, not just emotional distress.

    “[A]lthough it is true that Simmons would not need to introduce any evidence of reputational damage to proceed in a defamation cause of action seeking only the emotional damages caused by the allegedly defamatory statement, Simmons must be able to show, as a threshold matter, that the allegedly defamatory statement on its face was the type of statement that would ‘naturally tend’ to injure one’s reputation,” Keosian wrote.

    Keosian added that “immutable characteristics” such as being transgender may be disliked by some populations but that identifying those traits was not defamation. He said that the courts would “not validate those prejudices by legally recognizing them.”
     
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    This is a perplexing issue for conservatives.
     
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    But I gather that all perplexed persons are not conservatives (or maybe I have misjudged you?).
     
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    No it's not, it's a perplexing case for you liberals. You're the hypocrites who demand mandatory acceptance and respect for LGBTQXYZWTF types, but at the same time think it's a pejorative burn to accuse a straight person of being one. If you want about a million examples, do a Google image search for, "Trump Putin gay meme."
     
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      Captain Sasquatch, the "Homo Hero", loves to direct pejorative gay insults at me all the time in the political chat forum. In fact, sometimes I'll toss up a softball for him in order to allow him to put his flaming hypocrisy on display.

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        It really is comically duplicitous. Look no further than the person who's the topic of the thread, Richard Simmons. One of the most flamboyant flamers on Earth, who preaches love and acceptance of all. Not that there's anything wrong with that point of view. But then he sues a publication for reporting that he's transgender, because he regards that label as a, quote, “cruel and malicious” defamatory insult?

        According to the article, Simmons' lawyer argued that transgender people did not have the same protections as those of minority races and that being called transgender exposed the fitness star to “diminishment of his dignity.”

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          A large segment of the population hate dentists. If at a fun party someone told that I was a dentist and thus ruined my fun 'cause I'd hear lots of "Oh, I hate Dentists" is that defamation? Since there's a legal insistence that all manners of sex-styles are perfectly respectable, then nothing along those lines can be defaming.??
           
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            Um, I’m pretty sure lboy (person you replied to) has used the words trump, fellate, and putin together within the last week right here.
             
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            :triggered: this guy looks perplexed, too.
            We have always had strange and odd people that didnt fit in. In the good old days we
            just teased and made fun of them and they did the right thing and stayed quiet in their
            homes. Now they want to have a designation and quit being ashamed. Time to put our foot
            down and make them stfu. Life is black and white. Only gals (that want fellas) and fellas (that should want gals) rest of you pervs must be the work of Satan. Besides we know you just do it for attention. Thats all.
             
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                True story : My steady girl of 3 years broke up with me once I decided to pursue dentistry. Really odd, since she was the mouthy type.
                 
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                    Her loss!
                     
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                      Like not believing there’s only 2 genders for liberals? That kind of perplexing issue?
                       
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                          Quite possibly the greatest sitcom in history. It was perfect for the time. Ahead of its time. Barney Miller actually addressed many issues much like AITF. I saw Archie's chair in the Smithsonian. Welcome back G Gordon. You fell off the face of the earth for awhile.
                           
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                            I know you're trying to poke the bear and all; but sarcasm aside: "progressives" aren't exactly asking us for "live and let live."

                            If people don't approve of the LBGTQZYXD123 agenda--Democrats and their "progressive" radicals want to sue those who disagree, dox them, harass them, and otherwise drive them to personal and financial ruin.

                            And much of the whole "transgender" issue goes against the grain of medical science. Doctors with decades of experience in treating gender dysphoria say sex changes are NOT the best way of handling the issue--and are blocked on Twitter from expressing their medical opinion by trans activists who demand kids as young as 8 make life-altering decisions via off-label medical treatment and genital mutilation...just because they feel "different." It's madness and it's gone too far. The experts are raising red flags...but it doesn't matter to the idiots in the "progressive" movement who think it's a hate crime to dare point out scientific fact.
                             
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                              The progressives do not want known the tracked-out life history og these transgenders. They are high at committing suicide - an event that's easily disguised.
                               
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                                That's why this is utter madness and why the medical profession is abdicating their professional ethics and medical duty in standing aside and going along with it in the name of kowtowing to the LGBTQZD123 lobby: the WRONG treatments are being pushed onto society.

                                It's a medical fact that people with gender dysphoria have suicide attempts at 6-7x the rate of the normal population because no amount of "tolerance" will substitute for what your body is biologically built to do. Study after study shows sex changes do not work for some 50% of those who do "transition"...leading to such high suicide numbers.

                                Name me one other purported medical treatment that has such high failure statistics. You can't. Anything else would have been shut down as "experimental" long ago.

                                And that's not even mentioning the reality that almost no studies have been done about the harmful effects of using off-label drugs as hormone suppressants.

                                When you deny reality, harmful things happen.
                                 

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