Justice system fails

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by GatorJ, Apr 27, 2019.

  1. GatorJ

    GatorJ Hopeful
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2014
    Messages:
    15,578
    Oxbucks:
    $6,960
    Ratings:
    +15,091 / -193
  2. ChiefGator

    ChiefGator A Chief and a Gator, Master of the Ignore list!!!!

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2015
    Messages:
    6,854
    Oxbucks:
    $2,495
    Ratings:
    +3,759 / -328
    And yet some insist that we have "mass incarceration", apparently not in this case.
     
  3. DocZaius

    DocZaius Baby Yoda Daddy
    Lifetime Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2014
    Messages:
    3,659
    Oxbucks:
    $12,008
    Ratings:
    +11,785 / -34
  4. CGgater

    CGgater Gainesville Native

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2014
    Messages:
    6,372
    Oxbucks:
    $5,768
    Ratings:
    +8,387 / -115
    What’s blurry about “sexual captivity for over a year???”
     
    • Swamp Donkey

      Swamp Donkey Wait Til Next Year!!!!
      Lifetime Member

      Joined:
      Jun 9, 2014
      Messages:
      53,501
      Oxbucks:
      $44,778
      Ratings:
      +69,465 / -3,524
      • Swamp Donkey

        Swamp Donkey Wait Til Next Year!!!!
        Lifetime Member

        Joined:
        Jun 9, 2014
        Messages:
        53,501
        Oxbucks:
        $44,778
        Ratings:
        +69,465 / -3,524
        We still think you should be in prison.
         
      • DocZaius

        DocZaius Baby Yoda Daddy
        Lifetime Member

        Joined:
        Jun 23, 2014
        Messages:
        3,659
        Oxbucks:
        $12,008
        Ratings:
        +11,785 / -34
        Did she consent to it?
         
      • DocZaius

        DocZaius Baby Yoda Daddy
        Lifetime Member

        Joined:
        Jun 23, 2014
        Messages:
        3,659
        Oxbucks:
        $12,008
        Ratings:
        +11,785 / -34
        Well obviously.
         
      • DocZaius

        DocZaius Baby Yoda Daddy
        Lifetime Member

        Joined:
        Jun 23, 2014
        Messages:
        3,659
        Oxbucks:
        $12,008
        Ratings:
        +11,785 / -34
        Also, the victim's family pushed for this plea so he'd get put on the sex offender registry, which was no guarantee if he went to trial.
         
      • Swamp Donkey

        Swamp Donkey Wait Til Next Year!!!!
        Lifetime Member

        Joined:
        Jun 9, 2014
        Messages:
        53,501
        Oxbucks:
        $44,778
        Ratings:
        +69,465 / -3,524
        Yeah, I'd take that file with three hours prep time and guarantee a win at trial.

        Juries are smarter than most defense attorneys.

        Too many lazy or scared (or both) prosecutors.
         
        • CGgater

          CGgater Gainesville Native

          Joined:
          Jul 30, 2014
          Messages:
          6,372
          Oxbucks:
          $5,768
          Ratings:
          +8,387 / -115
          “Captivity” implies she did not. He pleaded guilty. I’m not seeing the fuzzy gray area in this situation.
           
        • DocZaius

          DocZaius Baby Yoda Daddy
          Lifetime Member

          Joined:
          Jun 23, 2014
          Messages:
          3,659
          Oxbucks:
          $12,008
          Ratings:
          +11,785 / -34
          She consented to a sexual relationship where saying "no" was part of the role-play, and encouraged him to do other highly extreme things to her (such as starving her). Is it that much of a stretch for the defendant to plausibly assert that she consented to the confinement?

          I'm not defending him and of course he deserves a greater punishment, but he's got a defense, and the victim's family is understandably skittish about putting her through an embarrassing public trial where he has a nonzero chance of getting acquitted.

          I'd like to know why he doesn't face federal kidnapping charges. Taking a minor across state lines for sexual purposes sounds like it could be pursued, even if she was over the age of consent in the destination state.
           
        • crosscreekcooter

          crosscreekcooter Cunning Linguist
          Lifetime Member

          Joined:
          Jun 11, 2014
          Messages:
          8,995
          Oxbucks:
          $2,396
          Ratings:
          +8,297 / -26
          Will he be able to vote?
           
          • Gator By Marriage

            Gator By Marriage A convert to Gatorism
            Lifetime Member

            Joined:
            Dec 31, 2018
            Messages:
            3,880
            Oxbucks:
            $5,902
            Ratings:
            +6,036 / -98
            In the AJC story it says the victim and her family did not want to go to trial and were willing to forgo him pleading to a charge that would have brought more time, but not having to register as a sex offender. Still seems odd which makes me suspect there's more to the story. The Gwinnett Co. DAs office actually has a very good (and well deserved) reputation and the DA, Danny Porter, is very respected throughout the state. He is one of the, if not the, longest serving DAs in Georgia. I actually know him slightly, and nobody around here would ever claim he's soft on crime.
             
          • ChiefGator

            ChiefGator A Chief and a Gator, Master of the Ignore list!!!!

            Joined:
            Nov 9, 2015
            Messages:
            6,854
            Oxbucks:
            $2,495
            Ratings:
            +3,759 / -328
            Yes he has a legal defense, which is why sometimes individuals need to seek justice in other more direct ways. Like say telling everyone around him what he did so that his life becomes a total nightmare.
             
          • GatorJ

            GatorJ Hopeful
            Moderator

            Joined:
            Jun 11, 2014
            Messages:
            15,578
            Oxbucks:
            $6,960
            Ratings:
            +15,091 / -193
            Another one:

             
          • CGgater

            CGgater Gainesville Native

            Joined:
            Jul 30, 2014
            Messages:
            6,372
            Oxbucks:
            $5,768
            Ratings:
            +8,387 / -115
            I wonder what the girl’s parents had to say...
             
          • Bait'n Gator

            Bait'n Gator Go away..... bait'n
            Lifetime Member

            Joined:
            Mar 14, 2015
            Messages:
            1,434
            Oxbucks:
            $3,679
            Ratings:
            +4,740 / -117
            If it was my daughter I'd want him released also. Torturing and killing the **** out of that pos would be much tougher to pull off if he was incarcerated.
             

            Share This Page

            The Box

            Help

            You don't have the necessary permissions to use the chat.

              1. There are currently no users chatting.
                • About Us

                  Our community sprung up when the Gatorsports message board was shut down in the summer of 2014. We pride ourselves on offering Gator-biased, yet critical discussion among people of all different backgrounds. We are working every day to make sure our community is the best Gator message board you will find.
                • Like us on Facebook

                • Buy us a Zima!

                  The management works very hard to make sure the community is running the best software, best designs, and all the other bells and whistles. Care to buy us a non-alcoholic Zima? We'd really appreciate it! Just click the "Donate" tab at the top of the page.