Let's talk about firing the D coaching staff

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  1. ThreatMatrix

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    About half way through that start talking about the defense. Just fire the entire defensive staff - except maybe the DL Coach.
    Fire Grantham, English (safeties), Gray (CBs), Robinson( LBs, Dawg) and fire Knox or get a coach dedicated to special teams.
    If we don't win a championship this season it falls on the defensive coaches.
    If you watch any of GNFP it's just amazing how many times LB/DBs just don't know where to be, use poor technique, etc. All could be fixed with competent coaching.
     
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      Special Teams have gone to hell since Nord left. I'll bet that dude has been working out and is itching and ready to get back into coaching. There's no way he's sitting in his easy chair right now with potato chips on his chin, no sir.
       
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        I'm sure he and Kent are living quite comfortably in a duplex at a very nice assisted living facility.
         
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          I guess one thread for this podcast wasn't enough. I knew it was good, but dang!
           
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          We're doing well here. First we get Dooley fired. Next up, defensive staff.
           
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            So all that means we want Bama, or oh hell no ;)
             
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            No doubt it's been pretty pitiful. Turner has done a very solid job IMO. A think Slaton has progressed under him and we have multiple younger guys looking solid. He's also recruiting at a legit level. A little hard to knock Gray, bc he's had a legit resume with CBs. Seems he might just be hurt by the granthem effect. CR was a GA before here, which is obviously a weird situation to start. I'd be curious to know what his actual role was at msu for the one season grathem actually saw him coach. Problem is I'm not sure any LBs look good in this scheme and this player rotation. Would love to make a change at DC and then also bring in Bam. english is a waste. His resume sucked before here and it's not getting any better.
             
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              That's what I was thinking. He has a solid resume. And he did a very good job the first time he was here. That's why the poor CB's play is so baffling and maddening. I think it has to be scheme. Gray has proven to be a very good coach.
               
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                Heck yes we do. They put their pants on one leg at a time.
                 
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                  The scheme is stupid, but it can also be a practice structure issue. I.E. the split of time of position drills vs 7v7 or 11v11 time. Our guys look like shlt in zone, but when its all the CBs, you start wondering if they're just not getting the practice time. Same with safeties and a few things. You'd think one safety look better just based on natural talent if there wasn't an overall coaching issue.
                   
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                  Who do you hire if you can Grantham? I look around the country and everyone's defense sucks. I'm not sure who we could hire that would improve the defense that is a realistic option.

                  Kevin Steele intrigues me if he would come. He would be decent, and he has a multi-year track record. Barry Odom would not come IMO. I doubt Mason comes because he and Mullen don't like each other.
                   
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                    Keep looking. We're talking about somebody better than the dwag, so you don't have to set the bar that high. Heck, is Clarabelle available?
                     
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                      Give me names.
                       
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                        Heck, is Clarabelle available?

                        He did.
                         
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                          Kevin Steele is underrated and could be acquired IMO. He's consistently been in the next tier behind Bama and UGA in the SEC as far as the defensive product on the field is concerned. But he's also had less talent than them. He'd have more talent at Florida than he did at Auburn, and he's coached in the southeast for a long time. He's also beaten Bama and UGA as a DC. Malzahn always seems like he's on the hot seat and a move to Gainesville could provide more stability.

                          Auburn has lost 20 games with Steele as DC. Points allowed in those losses:

                          2016:

                          Clemson 19
                          Texas A&M 29
                          Georgia 13
                          Bama 30
                          Oklahoma 35

                          2017:

                          Clemson 14
                          LSU 27
                          Georgia 28
                          UCF 34

                          2018:

                          LSU 22
                          MSU 23
                          Tennessee 30
                          Georgia 27
                          Bama 52

                          2019:

                          Florida 24
                          LSU 23
                          Georgia 21
                          Minnesota 31

                          2020:

                          Georgia 27
                          South Carolina 30

                          If Mullen is coaching the offense in those games, Auburn wins a vast majority of those games.
                           
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                          She’s more of an offensive specialist.
                           
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                            Call me crazy, but I'd like to take a closer look at Marquand Manuel. He has a mixed record as an NFL coach, to be sure. But working for the Falcons and the Eagles isn't exactly a clear path to early success. At 41, he is just entering the "prime of life" so to speak and he has the credentials and the relative youth to be a solid prospect for a DC job at the power 5 level. Being a Gator, with a background in the Miami area, doesn't hurt either.
                             
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                              We are the 62nd ranked defense. Do you want 61 names?
                               
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                                Oh you so missed my point, hence Law's facepalm.
                                 

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