Miss State pulls QBs scholarship offer

[Gator Fever]

https://network.yardbarker.com/colleg..._sport_college football_module_head_17756855

Some pretty strong stuff in there from his coach. Another article I think said Miss State tried to get him to do some Greyshirt thing or something like that when they pulled it. Does anyone know if we ever pulled a kids offer that didn't have off the field issues that we had officially offered before and he wanted to enroll.

 

[Ray Finkle]

Classy move Dan!

 

[MidwestChomp]

This wasn't Alabama? Crappy thing to do.

 

[Captain Sasquatch]

They didn't want him anyway.

 

[WobbleGator]

Classy move Dan!

I would expect nothing else from a Dan.

 

[Gator Fever]

That is classless imo - if you think you may be tight on the numbers tell the kid up front its a conditional offer if you aren't 100% after him.

 

[GatorJ]

https://network.yardbarker.com/colleg..._sport_college football_module_head_17756855

Some pretty strong stuff in there from his coach. Another article I think said Miss State tried to get him to do some Greyshirt thing or something like that when they pulled it. Does anyone know if we ever pulled a kids offer that didn't have off the field issues that we had officially offered before and he wanted to enroll.

Of course we have. The first one that comes to mind for me is Tre Bell a couple years ago.

 

[GatorJ]

But we don't gray shirt. That's a university rule. Alabama uses great shirting as their minor-league.

 

[cornbread]

dan is leaving, because we all know he is to nice to pull such a stunt, there you have it, he is our next coach

 

[Gator Fever]

Of course we have. The first one that comes to mind for me is Tre Bell a couple years ago.

How far out was it done?

Edit: I see it was done in August way out and he refused camp participation before they did it I read.

https://www.alligatorarmy.com/2012/...-scholarship-offer-decommit-gators-recruiting

 

[gatormandan]

I would expect nothing else from a Dan.

Haters!

 

[itsgr82bag8r]

This happens routinely everywhere. It just so happened that this kid was graduating 6 months early & the timing worked out badly. It also means that MSU has better options for QB than this kid. We might seriously consider making a visit to his home, soon.

 

[TheDouglas78]

But we don't gray shirt. That's a university rule. Alabama uses great shirting as their minor-league.

great shirting?

 

[GatorJ]

great shirting?

Yep. It's great.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Yep. It's great.

 

[WillGetIn]

I think some of you may have misunderstood something. The kid still had his offer if he would wait until the second semester to enroll. That is the grayshirt. Mullen was still going to live up to his committement.

It seems to me that the kid didn't want to wait... Especially since Mullen also had another 3 star QB commit. I think he wants to go where he would not have the competition and he and his coach are using the gray shirt to get out of it.

 

[soflagator]

Rarely are these situations as cut and dry as they appear. I have no idea about the specifics, but a coach knows full well that in today's media environment, he'd be crucified to the point of threatening his career if he truly pulled this stunt. There has to be more that we're not hearing.

 

[Gator Fever]

I think some of you may have misunderstood something. The kid still had his offer if he would wait until the second semester to enroll. That is the grayshirt. Mullen was still going to live up to his committement.

It seems to me that the kid didn't want to wait... Especially since Mullen also had another 3 star QB commit. I think he wants to go where he would not have the competition and he and his coach are using the gray shirt to get out of it.

You sure some articles I thought said he planned on enrolling early and they just waited till a few weeks out to say they weren't going to honor it.

 

[WillGetIn]

This link gives you more than enough details... It also clarifies more for me on my take. I'd be upset if I was this kid, but its not accurate to say that his offer was yanked.

"They pushed him to graduate early...because they wanted him to go through the spring, and then at the last minute, Mississippi State decided to change their offer." Rather than arriving on campus as a fully covered student-athlete as planned, Virgil was asked to accept grayshirt status. This would have left him off scholarship until at least January 2016, an alteration that led Virgil and the Bulldogs to part ways. "Just knowing that I am graduating early in a month, it is hard to just sit out a whole year without playing and being in a program," Virgil told Paul Jones of 247Sports. His frustration is understandable given an extremely late change of heart from head coach Dan Mullen and the Bulldogs staff. "(They said) they had four quarterbacks there already and they felt it was not a position of need at this time," Neill said. "He doesn't want to play for a coach that is going to make these kinds of decisions. Going to any college, you want to have a coach you can trust and believe in."

 

[Gator Fever]

This link gives you more than enough details... It also clarifies more for me on my take. I'd be upset if I was this kid, but its not accurate to say that his offer was yanked.

"They pushed him to graduate early...because they wanted him to go through the spring, and then at the last minute, Mississippi State decided to change their offer." Rather than arriving on campus as a fully covered student-athlete as planned, Virgil was asked to accept grayshirt status. This would have left him off scholarship until at least January 2016, an alteration that led Virgil and the Bulldogs to part ways. "Just knowing that I am graduating early in a month, it is hard to just sit out a whole year without playing and being in a program," Virgil told Paul Jones of 247Sports. His frustration is understandable given an extremely late change of heart from head coach Dan Mullen and the Bulldogs staff. "(They said) they had four quarterbacks there already and they felt it was not a position of need at this time," Neill said. "He doesn't want to play for a coach that is going to make these kinds of decisions. Going to any college, you want to have a coach you can trust and believe in."

That puts it in the worst situation imo. So by yanking it just a few weeks prior and him being an early enrollee he would have been stuck with a whole year of expenses. I don't have a big issue if one is yanked way out and there were legit reasons to do so but this looks real bad.