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Sums it up right there. On the one hand you have insightful analysis in the other you have 'azz.
Mullen’s scheme
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Bet he is grabbing a handful.
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That team was also 5 points and a storm from starting 6-1. Had it started 6-1 and it likely would have finished much better too.
So there is no excuse for winning less than 10 games this year and if UF falls well short of that UF hired the wrong guy. UF has seen such turnarounds in the past when UF has hired a great coaches, ie Spurrier or even a competent coach, ie Pell etc.
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You are setting up literally any coach in the country to fail with that level of expectation. This team goes nowhere near that playing in the SEC with Franks, Trask or a True Freshman. Much less the rest of Shark Humper's leftovers. Some interesting parallels:
The 2007 Alabama Crimson Tide football team represented the University of Alabama for the 2007 NCAA Division I FBS football season. The Tide was led by its new head coach Nick Saban, a former head coach of rival LSU. Despite a strong 6–2 start, they finished out the season by losing four of their final five games. The team closed the regular season at 6–6 (4–4, SEC) and lost for a sixth-straight time to rival Auburn. The Tide defeated Colorado in the 2007 Independence Bowl 30–24 to finish the season at a 7–6.
Alabama had 18 returning starters from the previous season, including nine on offense, five on defense, and four on special teams.[3] The most notable departures from the previous year were Kenneth Darby and Le'Ron McClain on offense and Dominic Lee, Jeremy Clark, Juwan Simpson, Terrence Jones, Jeffrey Dukes and Ramzee Robinson on defense.[3]
The Crimson Tide offense returned all three quarterbacks at the top of the depth chart, including starter John Parker Wilson. The entire starting offensive line returned, anchored by freshman All-American Andre Smith, along with reinforcements by the top four tight ends from the 2006 depth chart.[3] Alabama's receiving unit was led by its wide receivers D. J. Hall, who broke nearly every Alabama-receiving record in school history in 2006.[3] The Alabama defense returned five starters in 2007, based on the 3–3–5 scheme that was run in 2006. The Tide in 2007 had a new starting nose tackle, outside linebacker, strongside linebacker, cornerback, and a starting safety.[3]
2007 Alabama Crimson Tide football team - Wikipedia
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Listen Jeremy, I know you are a UAL suckup. Your hiring over the years have made that clear.
I am hoping UF hired a better coach than Saban. I don't want an ordinary coach like that at UF.
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I see. A new signup, but now a self revealed old sock puppet!
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Then came Steve. Addazio, that is.
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I think all of us are, but hope doesn't require me to blow smoke up everyone's azz. The X's and Os and overall record from his previous stops aren't really ringing endorsements. The argument that he didn't win that much can't be justified by saying that you can't recruit at Ms state because it stands to reason that if Ms St was the issue, then he should be doing very well now based on Florida recruiting history. That argument also can't be used to say that regardless of level of talent, he gets the most from his players bc they basically beat most (and I say most bc he laid some serious eggs against supremely inferior talent) of the teams they we're supposed to and pretty much lost to everyone who was favored. That doesnt sound like maximizing talent, it sounds like holding serve.
At any rate we're all Gators and hoping for the best, but I'm a results and numbers guy before anything, and I don't see much in the way of concrete evidence that says he's gonna get us over the hump against the big boys. Hope I'm wrong.
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So I stayed away from football in general after the hire because I've seen this play before with the pumpers trying to make this out to be the best hire in history while the pragmatists or "dumpers" picked it apart as the worst hire in history. In the interest of disclosure I thought the hire was horrific.Anyway, I unplugged and promised myself to try and be an optimist as we all learned more about what the Mullen era was going to be like around here. My first sample was the spring game, and frankly, it didn't help convince me he was the guy. Nothing that has transpired over the summer has done much to help convince me either.
The reality is that the time for speculation is almost over, and we'll soon see whether he can make the grade here or not. Personally, I am hoping for the best; that Mullen really is going to shine with the talent level that UF supposedly can attract that he never could get at MSU (I find that argument dubious but I will buy into it for now), and that it's going to all come together and we're going to be climbing back to the top of the pile. The realist in me looks at his record and knows deep down that he is not the guy. I really am hoping to be wowed and proven wrong, I want the Gators to be great again and for football to be fun again.
The reality is that the time for speculation is almost over, and we'll soon see whether he can make the grade here or not. Personally, I am hoping for the best; that Mullen really is going to shine with the talent level that UF supposedly can attract that he never could get at MSU (I find that argument dubious but I will buy into it for now), and that it's going to all come together and we're going to be climbing back to the top of the pile. The realist in me looks at his record and knows deep down that he is not the guy. I really am hoping to be wowed and proven wrong, I want the Gators to be great again and for football to be fun again.
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The unique thing about Bama, the thing that stresses opponents to crack is that in Bama they face a nationally top player at every position. Eleven of the best on O & D all over the field.
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Back to Mullen’s scheme...
I like winning. I liked the inventiveness of his offenses at UF, the way they’d pull tackles, the TE shovel pass, the jump pass, etc. When it worked, I liked it fine. Of course, generational talent like Tebow and Harvin made it great. We don’t have that at the moment. Not even established SEC talent.
So, if he’s able to find and/or develop QBs I think it will be good and occasionally really good.
I like what I’m seeing elsewhere. He seems to have a comprehensive grasp of running a program well. The one snag, and it’s worrisome, is this 2019 recruiting class - so far.
I like winning. I liked the inventiveness of his offenses at UF, the way they’d pull tackles, the TE shovel pass, the jump pass, etc. When it worked, I liked it fine. Of course, generational talent like Tebow and Harvin made it great. We don’t have that at the moment. Not even established SEC talent.
So, if he’s able to find and/or develop QBs I think it will be good and occasionally really good.
I like what I’m seeing elsewhere. He seems to have a comprehensive grasp of running a program well. The one snag, and it’s worrisome, is this 2019 recruiting class - so far.
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There is no "the guy" outside of just a few, none of them were coming to UF.
I hope and expect that there is no "scheme", but a preferred method of playing football which will be adjusted according to the skills and talents on the team.
Surely this staff is developing players in ways the previous one never even thought of. That will improve play which will result in more victories and for me a happier fan.
I would hate to win all our games like we beat KY, luck.
