NFL Cowboys, 'Stand for Anthem or you're off the team'

[CaribGator]

Finally a team with common sense, balls, no PC and doing what is right.

http://kfrog.cbslocal.com/2017/07/2...s-stand-for-the-anthem-or-youre-off-the-team/

Jerry Jones told his players "You will stand for the National Anthem, or your ass will be off this team."

They are employees, places of work have rules, express yourself outside of work.

 

[TheDouglas78]

In before someone wants to bash Jerry Jones over this...

 

[Gator Fever]

I am glad my favorite NFL team is doing this. Now all those crazed lefties from Austin, TX can stay home instead of attending Cowboy games if they think the players should be allowed to tick off most US Flag loving patriotic fans.

 

[BNAG8R]

What if your religion forbids it (Jehovah's Witness, for example)? Is he going to discriminate based on religion? As much as I oppose the "stance" and statement that guys like Kapernick (sp?) were making, I don't see this going well for Jerry.

 

[Gator Fever]

What if your religion forbids it (Jehovah's Witness, for example)? Is he going to discriminate based on religion? As much as I oppose the "stance" and statement that guys like Kapernick (sp?) were making, I don't see this going well for Jerry.

I would just tell them you still have to stand there and do nothing disrespectful as its part of the official game activities that players have to take part in.

This is a business and employees shouldn't be allowed to bring very bad publicity that can hurt your brand if the owner doesn't purposely allow that conduct. Go do your protest away from the stadium while not in uniform or something.

 

[ufgator812]

What if your religion forbids it (Jehovah's Witness, for example)? Is he going to discriminate based on religion? As much as I oppose the "stance" and statement that guys like Kapernick (sp?) were making, I don't see this going well for Jerry.

Standing there....
His team, his rules

 

[TheDouglas78]

My brother and sister in law are Jehovah Witness. When they come to the baseball games with us, they stand for the anthem. They don't salute or anything. But they are respectful of the people there.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

Its called a free market, and free enterprise. You are free to do as you please as an individual, and the company you work for is free to do as it pleases regarding you and your choice of behaviors. My employer has a dress code, my other has not just that but a code of standards punishable by the ucmj. I am of course free to show up in shorts and flops, and they are in turn free to punish and or remove me from my position.

Freedom of choice does not mean freedom from consequences and one person's freedom does not get to negate or undermine another's.

 

[GatorJB]

I haven't liked anything about the Cowboys since Emmitt left, but I do like this a lot. I hope more teams follow suit.

 

[Mgnihilo]

@DurtySwamp. That's the best response I've ever heard or read on this argument. Our society today says that it's all about me and what I want. Even parents today are afraid to punish their kids because of what might be said or done to them. We have somehow forgotten that even though we do have Freedom of choice, there still can and should be consequences for some of those choices that we make.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

@DurtySwamp. That's the best response I've ever heard or read on this argument. Our society today says that it's all about me and what I want. Even parents today are afraid to punish their kids because of what might be said or done to them. We have somehow forgotten that even though we do have Freedom of choice, there still can and should be consequences for some of those choices that we make.

Bingo hilo... but don't worry. No matter what society tries to do, there are ALWAYS consequences for every decision and action. This is universal no matter how bad snowflakes want to pretend otherwise.

 

[maheo30]

This is possibly fake news. I can't find it anywhere else and usually something like this is huge news. He was reported as saying this about 6 months ago and it turned out to be false.

 

[Slug]

What if your religion forbids it (Jehovah's Witness, for example)? Is he going to discriminate based on religion? As much as I oppose the "stance" and statement that guys like Kapernick (sp?) were making, I don't see this going well for Jerry.

What religion prohibits you from standing for the national anthem?

 

[Alumni Guy]

What religion prohibits you from standing for the national anthem?

I've never heard of one, but if an employee can prove it exists and he follows that religion, he would not be required to stand.

You can't prohibit employment if his religion does not permit activities which are not germane to his job functions.

 

[GatorJ]

This is possibly fake news. I can't find it anywhere else and usually something like this is huge news. He was reported as saying this about 6 months ago and it turned out to be false.

Lol. This entire thread is fake news.

http://www.snopes.com/jerry-jones-speech-911/

 

[maheo30]

Lol. This entire thread is fake news.

http://www.snopes.com/jerry-jones-speech-911/

"Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones told his players they were "actors" playing the role of "patriotic super heroes" and therefore had to stand during the playing of the U.S. national anthem."

 

[TheDouglas78]

I don't know how accurate the initial article is, being it is based on a tweet mentioned July 28th 2017. But the Snopes article is based on something that happened after the first game of last season. I do not think the two are related. The tweet might be part of the reference to the Cowboys picking Luke McCown over Kapernick this past weekend as a 3rd quarterback. Which coaches said was due to coachability.

 

[Chomper]

Totally agree with Jones on this. Every employer has the right to set workplace rules as long as they are equally applied. And if you don't like the rules, find a job elsewhere. And contrary to common belief, this is not a First Amendment issue. The Bill of Rights was created to provide protection from government intrusion, not from company rules. Some things are just common sense but unfortunately there seems to be a shortage of that these days,

 

[GBHOR]

Well done Sir

 

[BNAG8R]

What religion prohibits you from standing for the national anthem?

I didn't do a ton of research. I grew up with a JW kid that lived on my street, and he said he didn't do pledge of allegiance or stand for the anthem because it was considered worshipping a false idol. It appears that isn't a strict rule according to someone here that knows.

I wasn't taking sides, I was just offering up a scenario and asking a question. Apparently that's worthy of a dislike, though.