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[FireFoley]

Did you see this somewhere or are you just guessing?

Opinion only. My hope is that he does not return.

 

[Double Gator Dad]

Hard to see, but I don't know exactly how these NIL deals work. I'm guessing we are paying him way more than he's worth and I don't know what either party's rights are to get out of it.

I agree with you.
Kugel was the beneficiary of the beginning of NIL with UF basketball and I am sure that he is being paid way more than he’s worth based upon his actual performance versus his projected performance this season.

Just like Kowacie Reeves the year before, it seems like a strong NIL deal results in performance regression.

As you stated, the question is whether or not NIL deals require annual renewal by both parties because it would be difficult to justify giving him top dollar versus spreading it around to better players.

I don’t dislike Kugel, like some seem to, I just can’t understand how his game could deteriorate so quickly. I would like to think that he could put it all together again but I agree that it’s unlikely.

 

[GatorJ]

I don’t dislike Kugel, like some seem to, I just can’t understand how his game could deteriorate so quickly. I would like to think that he could put it all together again but I agree that it’s unlikely.

I think that Kugel is very good with isolation basketball. If he gets one on one, he can be devastating. But anytime there’s help defense, he turns it over. He is a below average passer, so when he gets caught in a double team, he cannot pass his way out.

He’s a pretty elite defender. If he would just play defense and rebound, he would be a good player. Like Rodman. But Rodman was a pretty elite passer. I don’t know whether he could remain on the court even as an elite defender because if the ball ever goes into his hands it’s almost always a turnover.

 

[lagator]

I think that Kugel is very good with isolation basketball. If he gets one on one, he can be devastating. But anytime there’s help defense, he turns it over. He is a below average passer, so when he gets caught in a double team, he cannot pass his way out.

He’s a pretty elite defender. If he would just play defense and rebound, he would be a good player. Like Rodman. But Rodman was a pretty elite passer. I don’t know whether he could remain on the court even as an elite defender because if the ball ever goes into his hands it’s almost always a turnover.

I don’t agree on the passing completely. He’s reckless and takes too many chances and sometimes zips it from too close so his teammates can’t find the handle but he has good vision seeing angles others might not. With a little restraint and getting his confidence back he can be a good starting 2 guard but unfortunately it looks like it’s going to be somewhere else.

 

[Double Gator Dad]

I think that Kugel is very good with isolation basketball. If he gets one on one, he can be devastating. But anytime there’s help defense, he turns it over. He is a below average passer, so when he gets caught in a double team, he cannot pass his way out.

He’s a pretty elite defender. If he would just play defense and rebound, he would be a good player. Like Rodman. But Rodman was a pretty elite passer. I don’t know whether he could remain on the court even as an elite defender because if the ball ever goes into his hands it’s almost always a turnover.

Another liability in his game is closing his shot.
Riley can make a quick move and get past the defender only to botch a layup or a dunk.

I’ve never seen a player that struggles with the easiest part of the move.

 

[Detroitgator]

Another liability in his game is closing his shot.
Riley can make a quick move and get past the defender only to botch a layup or a dunk.

I’ve never seen a player that struggles with the easiest part of the move.

Really? Detroitgator says, "You've never seen me play..."

 

[MidwestChomp]

I think that Kugel is very good with isolation basketball. If he gets one on one, he can be devastating. But anytime there’s help defense, he turns it over. He is a below average passer, so when he gets caught in a double team, he cannot pass his way out.

He’s a pretty elite defender. If he would just play defense and rebound, he would be a good player. Like Rodman. But Rodman was a pretty elite passer. I don’t know whether he could remain on the court even as an elite defender because if the ball ever goes into his hands it’s almost always a turnover.

Rodman's bball IQ was completely under rated. He was one of the smartest guys on the court. Even when kicking the cameraman.

 

[GatorJ]

I don’t agree on the passing completely. He’s reckless and takes too many chances and sometimes zips it from too close so his teammates can’t find the handle but he has good vision seeing angles others might not. With a little restraint and getting his confidence back he can be a good starting 2 guard but unfortunately it looks like it’s going to be somewhere else.

That’s a really good point

 

[URGatorBait]

That’s a really good point

Listen J, this message board doesn't work if you just out here agreeing with everybody.

 

[lagator]

Rodman's bball IQ was completely under rated. He was one of the smartest guys on the court. Even when kicking the cameraman.

But his fashion sense was awful. I mean who would wear those shoes with that skirt?

 

[Fodderwing]

But his fashion sense was awful. I mean who would wear those shoes with that skirt?

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Minikilt.

 

[TLB]

But his fashion sense was awful. I mean who would wear those shoes with that skirt?

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Thoughts:

1. Who would wear a t-shirt of their own head? Well, Rodman, of course.
2. That his kid or mini-me next to him in the matching attire?
3. Security would need Rodman there to protect them.

 

[Bernardo de la Paz]

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[maheo30]

But his fashion sense was awful. I mean who would wear those shoes with that skirt?

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[Born2beagator]

I want Walter back bad. Wish we'd had him from the start

 

[williston_gator]

 

[aka]

Kugel haters have find another whipping boy.

 

[Towels 'N Sporks]

No surprise there. Dude was mentally checked out all season. Hopefully we end up hearing about what was going on. He will probably go be a star somewhere else.

 

[Bernardo de la Paz]

 

[maheo30]

I think him transferring is smart. If he sticks around, I really do believe he ends up behind Aberdeen and Brown.