Pete Rose DEAD

[Swamp Donkey]

Hated the Reds growing up....was Pirates fan....still my favorite player from that era was Pete Rose

No wonder we can't get along.

Dave Parker though. That man was the truth.

 

[gardnerwebbgator]

No wonder we can't get along.

Dave Parker though. That man was the truth.

 

[Ironhead]

No wonder we can't get along.

Dave Parker though. That man was the truth.

Weird as my Dad was a Dodgers fan. Started when they were still in Brooklyn.
Back then, Dodgers and Reds were in the same division. He took me to see the Reds vs the Dodgers at Riverfront, and I came out of that more of a Reds fan.....Damn kids.

I liked Roberto Clemente' , and Willie Stargell too. But, just couldn't pull for the Pirates.

 

[Spurdog98]

I remember when the Pirates came back and won the World Series (80 I believe) against the Orioles. My GF at the time, her dad was a huge O's fan and so I pulled for the Pirates just to piss him off. Not sure why.

 

[oxrageous]

That's not helpful with an off speed pitch.

HE CORKED HIS BATS. You'd have to ask him why he did it. Let's face it, corked bats helped players more in their minds than in reality over the decades.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

No wonder we can't get along.

Dave Parker though. That man was the truth.

Parker was a beast....I respected the Reds probably because they were winners and usually had the Pirates number. Not sure if you remember a pitcher named Jack Billingham who played for the Reds but he was a family friend...I believe Hank Aaron hit a HR off him right before he broke all time record.

 

[gardnerwebbgator]

I remember when the Pirates came back and won the World Series (80 I believe) against the Orioles. My GF at the time, her dad was a huge O's fan and so I pulled for the Pirates just to piss him off. Not sure why.

79. Earl Weaver **** the bed in yet another World Series, as Bill Haller eloquently pointed out in this chat:

 

[Spurdog98]

HE CORKED HIS BATS. You'd have to ask him why he did it. Let's face it, corked bats helped players more in their minds than in reality over the decades.

I'm going with he did because he was stupid.

 

[Homer J]

I’m no Pete Rose fan, and I think it was ridiculous to have a collision at the plate in an all-star game, but it’s not fair to say it ended Fosse’s career. He played several more seasons, including winning a pair of rings with the A’s, and remained a top flight catcher who was highly respected by the pitchers he caught. He also had several more injuries, totally unrelated to the shoulder injury Rose caused, but it is fair to say he was never the same hitter again. He had 16 HRs heading into that all-star break, but finished the season with only 18. He never hit more than 12 in any season after.

Fair enough - but he wasn't the same:

In the final play of the 1970 All-Star Game, Fosse was injured in a collision with Pete Rose at home plate.[8][9] Initial X-rays revealed no fractures or other damage, although a re-examination the following year found Fosse had sustained a fractured and separated shoulder, which healed incorrectly, causing chronic pain that was never entirely resolved.[10] Rose asserted that he was simply trying to win the game, and that Fosse — who had moved a few feet up the third-base line to receive the throw from Amos Otis[10] — was blocking the plate, but Rose was widely criticized for over-aggressive play in an exhibition game.[10] Fosse went on to play 42 games in the second half of the season, hitting .297 and winning the AL Gold Glove Award,[1] but said that he was never as good a batter after the injury.

 

[Grumbler]

Because he wasn't stupid enough to bet on baseball.

So Gaylord Perry, who LITERALLY built a hall of fame career on cheating, which he described in detail in his book, who literally would have been a nobody without the spitball, which affected countless games, committed a lesser sin than a guy who bet on his own team? FOH with that nonsense.

 

[Grumbler]

Dave Parker though. That man was the truth.

What a monster that guy was. I got in trouble with my little league coaches trying to imitate that snap-catch thing he did... emphasis on the "trying".

 

[Gator By Marriage]

So all this speculation and hyperbole is a better argument?

Yes

 

[78]

No wonder we can't get along.

Dave Parker though. That man was the truth.

Fantastic arm.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Parker was a beast....I respected the Reds probably because they were winners and usually had the Pirates number. Not sure if you remember a pitcher named Jack Billingham who played for the Reds but he was a family friend...I believe Hank Aaron hit a HR off him right before he broke all time record.

Sure I do. I grew up listening to EVERY Reds game. Pretty sure he came from the Astros with Morgan and Chief.

 

[Grumbler]

Sure I do. I grew up listening to EVERY Reds game.

EVERY Reds game here too. You could pick up Marty and Joe through the static on WLW all the way down in Lakeland after about 8:45pm so 4th inning or so. West coast games were awesome, all 9 innings. "Rounding third and headin' for home... good night everybody". Miss good ol' Joe.

 

[oxrageous]

So Gaylord Perry, who LITERALLY built a hall of fame career on cheating, which he described in detail in his book, who literally would have been a nobody without the spitball, which affected countless games, committed a lesser sin than a guy who bet on his own team? FOH with that nonsense.

Yes, it was a lesser sin, by far.

It was made clear decades before Rose had his MLB debut that gambling on baseball earned you a lifetime ban. Rose gambled on baseball. Not sure what you’re wringing your hands about.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

It appears that in addition to all the gambling and drinking, pete banged a lot of poster's moms.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

Sure I do. I grew up listening to EVERY Reds game. Pretty sure he came from the Astros with Morgan and Chief.

Part of the Big Red Machine trade. I looked him up to see if my memory was correct and it was Aarons 714th that he gave up.....Looking at his stats he was a perfect Red for that era as he was decent in the regular season but really damned good in the post season like most of that team. Both the Reds and Pirates of that era were flat out ballers.

 

[Gator By Marriage]

Sure I do. I grew up listening to EVERY Reds game. Pretty sure he came from the Astros with Morgan and Chief.

The Astros in that era were phenomenal at trading away great players.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

Speaking of Parker the Reds also had a beast in the outfield...George Foster.