Please don't break our State

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  1. g8orbill

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      That's how it works. They seemingly don't realized that the reason where they are living is fked up is their fault. These moron vote for ideology they seldom want in their own lives.
       
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        Where’s that socialism cartoon with the fork and electrical plug?

        They think they were just doing it wrong previously.
         
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          If CA leaves the union, I hope FL can form two states. The border should be I-4.
           
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          Spot-on article. If you like keeping more of your personal income, don't vote for Democrats. It was eye-opening how Gillum could get up there and announce "we'll need to implement a state income tax" and so many Democratic lemmings either cheered it on or were completely ignorant about how it would affect them.

          The fastest-growing states for years now have been Republican ones. It's possible to have a growing economy, well-paying jobs, and a responsible fiscal house without onerous taxation.
           
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            No. We need less states. Especially the tiny ass NE states, which all need to be consolidated. Perhaps still states but replace moat of the bureaucracy w regional authorities for efficiency. There is zero sense in duplicating all this bueaucracy.

            We also need about 1/10 the number of counties. Most states should only have 6-10 counties instead of 50-100. Back in the day the counties were set up to where you weren't that far from a county seat if riding in a wooden buggy pulled by a horse. Today you drive through three or four county sometimes in an hour. Get rid of the bureaucratic fat.

            Almost every bureaucracy from education to courts spend seventy 80% of the tax dollars just feeding themselves.
             
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              IF you have a populace that embraces personal responsibility and doesn't have a "the world owes me" attitude.
               
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                The disease that is liberalism is spreading.

                The hosts should be quarantined.

                (Kidding)
                 
              • -THE DUDE-

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                They seem to be attacking Texas first...I know several that their jobs relocated them from Illinois to Texas...and a few voted for Beto “to help bring change to their new state” :facepalm:
                 
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                  My in-laws could have written that op-ed. They have been saying the same thing for the almost 30 years I have known them.
                   
                • ChiefGator

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                  Let's hope that conservatives are among those that are moving and have money so they won't be changing Florida, at least we can hope.
                   
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                  The vast majority of democrat voters dont care about higher taxes because they dont pay taxes. The vast majority of democrat voters benefit from higher taxes b/c they get bigger gubmint handouts as a result.

                  The premise that everyone should logically be in favor of lower taxes stems from a faulty assumption that everyone has skin in the game. They dont. Democrat voters are leeches who want the government to take more of earners money, so it can give it to them.
                   
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                    Yep this migration and the millennials are going to ruin things eventually. Luckily the rate of change hasn't been as fast in FL as in places out west getting the California refugees or FL would already be permanently lost.
                     
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                    Yep. Look at Colorado.

                    Texas is starting to go that way.
                     
                    • Politigator

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                      Great rant, but not at all based upon facts. Through most of its history Florida leaned democratic. You had new deal congressman like Claude Pepper. Centrist Democrat Governors Lawton Chiles and Bob Graham. And it goes on before that, I just can't remember their names.

                      The influx of older people on balance has steered the state more republican in recent years.

                      Reality is it has been and continues to be a swing state.

                      Total epic fail by editorialist.
                       
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                        Democracy fails when more than 50% of the population do not pay taxes, as then the majority (non taxpayers) can impose taxes for their benefit at the expense of the minority (taxpayers) without recourse. That's part of why our country wasn't established as a democracy. But our elected leaders on both sides of the aisle constantly refer to democracy as if that should be the objective. It will be our country's downfall.

                        Right now the percentage that pay no income tax is almost 45%, per the liberal-leaning Brookings Institute. Getting perilously close to the failure line.
                         
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                        Between the influx from Mexico and relocated Californians and northerners Texas is almost gone. When Texas goes that’s all she wrote. We will become a socialist cesspool.
                         
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                        • g8tr72

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                          Totally agree. That's why the liberals are so fervent in their opposition of border control/security.

                          It's strictly a numbers game, and America will lose.

                          My poor granddaughter will have to endure this mess....
                           
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                          totally disagree- I do business with a lot of people from the nawth and they want our no State income tax but they also want to change everything to how it was up nawth to which I respond I75 and I95 run both ways
                           
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                          Dims have been claiming this for all of my life.

                          The problem is their voters grow up, go to college, get jobs, start paying taxes and stop being Dims, bc they are tired of paying so much of their checks to gubmint.

                          You forget that as Dims move to the left they inevitability lose that which they couldnt imagine losing. In the 80s it was the south. Now it is the midwest.

                          So it will be this time. We need to let the Dims speak on tv as much as possible.
                           
                          #20 Swamp Donkey, Jun 12, 2019
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