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[Paapa]

Yeah, just looked up, his case got moved to NFL arbitration because the Nevada Supreme Court. But I don't know what the play is from there.

I think he’s trying to say he was purposely railroaded and that’s why he’s suing, must have some merit to it.

 

[TheDouglas78]

I think he’s trying to say he was purposely railroaded and that’s why he’s suing, must have some merit to it.

What you mean that the Washington Commander released emails to put focus away from the work place harassment and not properly reporting revenue. That would never happen.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

must have some merit to it.

Must have some merit is a faulty assumption. For reasons that I wont explain in length here, merely surviving the Motion to Dismiss doesnt mean much at all. It doesnt mean you HAVE evidence to support your claim or that a jury/fact finder is likely to believe your evidence, it's sort of means that a jury COULD find for you if you had or found the right evidence.

Plus without knowing more at this point in the litigation the issue could have just been whether the arbitration was binding.

 

[Gator By Marriage]

What you mean that the Washington Commander released emails to put focus away from the work place harassment and not properly reporting revenue. That would never happen.

The worst thing that ever happened to that franchise was Daniel Snyder getting ahold of it.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Must have some merit is a faulty assumption. For reasons that I wont explain in length here, merely surviving the Motion to Dismiss doesnt mean much at all. It doesnt mean you HAVE evidence to support your claim or that a jury/fact finder is likely to believe your evidence, it's sort of means that a jury COULD find for you if you had or found the right evidence.

Plus without knowing more at this point in the litigation the issue could have just been whether the arbitration was binding.

The second point is what the Nevada Supreme Court was ruling on. Not the other charges.

 

[Nalt]

McElwain. I mean, he already has the swag...

 

[gatormandan]

McElwain. I mean, he already has the swag...

Thats an auto ban right there.

 

[soflagator]

@Swamp Donkey

You mentioned in the other thread that Kiffin has a lot of warts, but far less than the other options. I don’t disagree. So having said that, I’ll throw this out there as unpopular as it may be and as painful as it may sound. Timing is everything. Our timing right now, outside of one candidate, couldn’t be any worse. Consider what I’ll call the Lsu/Usc model. Both places thought they were going to get a significant upgrade for several years. LSU was looking for any reason to divorce Miles, knowing he was not the answer. And Clay Helton seem to be on a hot seat for half a decade. But neither of them got what they wanted. Fisher spurned the tigers, and USC was unable to get a suitable replacement. So they waited. The Trojans just treaded water for several years and LSU allowed an assistant to try out for the top spot and eventually gave him the job. In doing so, both teams avoided, locking themselves into disastrous contracts. The only reason LSU even had a buyout with Ed O was because he won them a title. So they have the ultimate score. But in reality, neither school really wanted their head coach, and this went on for several years.

Point being, if we can’t land Kiffin, I’m not sure something similar isn’t the correct path. The landscape right now behind him is barren, but that could change in another 12 to 24 months. I get that the idea of blah to bad performance during that stretch sounds horrific. But so is the idea of grabbing one of these average names and talking about a $30 million buyout in two years. The signature difference is they at least had competence where we do not. But maybe there’s someone in staff we can give the reigns to while we wait. At least we’d be liquid and could pounce when the candidate is right. Again, not advocating this as the ideal situation, but as a back up if option one doesn’t come through. It worked for both of those schools and may not have if they had settled.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

@Swamp Donkey

But maybe there’s someone in staff we can give the reigns to while we wait.

Not on this staff. This staff has no one even approaching mediocre. Im not kidding.

These guys wint even be on the field P4 coaches next year, except Juluke.

Brian Johnson is the closest name I can think of in that category.

 

[Detroitgator]

Not on this staff. This staff has no one even approaching mediocre. Im not kidding.

These guys wint even be on the field P4 coaches next year, except Juluke.

Brian Johnson is the closest name I can think of in that category.

 

[gatormandan]

Point being, if we can’t land Kiffin, I’m not sure something similar isn’t the correct path.

Its not a matter of we cant. Its a matter of we wont even consider it.

 

[Ancient Reptile]

@Swamp Donkey

You mentioned in the other thread that Kiffin has a lot of warts, but far less than the other options. I don’t disagree. So having said that, I’ll throw this out there as unpopular as it may be and as painful as it may sound. Timing is everything. Our timing right now, outside of one candidate, couldn’t be any worse. Consider what I’ll call the Lsu/Usc model. Both places thought they were going to get a significant upgrade for several years. LSU was looking for any reason to divorce Miles, knowing he was not the answer. And Clay Helton seem to be on a hot seat for half a decade. But neither of them got what they wanted. Fisher spurned the tigers, and USC was unable to get a suitable replacement. So they waited. The Trojans just treaded water for several years and LSU allowed an assistant to try out for the top spot and eventually gave him the job. In doing so, both teams avoided, locking themselves into disastrous contracts. The only reason LSU even had a buyout with Ed O was because he won them a title. So they have the ultimate score. But in reality, neither school really wanted their head coach, and this went on for several years.

Point being, if we can’t land Kiffin, I’m not sure something similar isn’t the correct path. The landscape right now behind him is barren, but that could change in another 12 to 24 months. I get that the idea of blah to bad performance during that stretch sounds horrific. But so is the idea of grabbing one of these average names and talking about a $30 million buyout in two years. The signature difference is they at least had competence where we do not. But maybe there’s someone in staff we can give the reigns to while we wait. At least we’d be liquid and could pounce when the candidate is right. Again, not advocating this as the ideal situation, but as a back up if option one doesn’t come through. It worked for both of those schools and may not have if they had settled.

I thinks reins, sofla. I believe the metaphor involves guiding a horse drawn carriage. JMO. But then I am 85 and easily triggered.

 

[t-gator]

@Swamp Donkey

You mentioned in the other thread that Kiffin has a lot of warts, but far less than the other options. I don’t disagree. So having said that, I’ll throw this out there as unpopular as it may be and as painful as it may sound. Timing is everything. Our timing right now, outside of one candidate, couldn’t be any worse. Consider what I’ll call the Lsu/Usc model. Both places thought they were going to get a significant upgrade for several years. LSU was looking for any reason to divorce Miles, knowing he was not the answer. And Clay Helton seem to be on a hot seat for half a decade. But neither of them got what they wanted. Fisher spurned the tigers, and USC was unable to get a suitable replacement. So they waited. The Trojans just treaded water for several years and LSU allowed an assistant to try out for the top spot and eventually gave him the job. In doing so, both teams avoided, locking themselves into disastrous contracts. The only reason LSU even had a buyout with Ed O was because he won them a title. So they have the ultimate score. But in reality, neither school really wanted their head coach, and this went on for several years.

Point being, if we can’t land Kiffin, I’m not sure something similar isn’t the correct path. The landscape right now behind him is barren, but that could change in another 12 to 24 months. I get that the idea of blah to bad performance during that stretch sounds horrific. But so is the idea of grabbing one of these average names and talking about a $30 million buyout in two years. The signature difference is they at least had competence where we do not. But maybe there’s someone in staff we can give the reigns to while we wait. At least we’d be liquid and could pounce when the candidate is right. Again, not advocating this as the ideal situation, but as a back up if option one doesn’t come through. It worked for both of those schools and may not have if they had settled.

I think it would have to get pretty ugly when the search actually starts for a situation like that to happen. And like law said, there's not any ideal replacements on staff.

I think finding the right fit and having a good nil program in place would go a long way. I use sark at Texas for an example. He was pretty average as a head coach previously. But the pieces were put in place for him at texas . Now look where they are.I could see something like that happen here if we hired just a solid coach that's not a nightmare of a recruiter.

 

[Altitude Gator]

@Swamp Donkey

You mentioned in the other thread that Kiffin has a lot of warts, but far less than the other options. I don’t disagree. So having said that, I’ll throw this out there as unpopular as it may be and as painful as it may sound. Timing is everything. Our timing right now, outside of one candidate, couldn’t be any worse. Consider what I’ll call the Lsu/Usc model. Both places thought they were going to get a significant upgrade for several years. LSU was looking for any reason to divorce Miles, knowing he was not the answer. And Clay Helton seem to be on a hot seat for half a decade. But neither of them got what they wanted. Fisher spurned the tigers, and USC was unable to get a suitable replacement. So they waited. The Trojans just treaded water for several years and LSU allowed an assistant to try out for the top spot and eventually gave him the job. In doing so, both teams avoided, locking themselves into disastrous contracts. The only reason LSU even had a buyout with Ed O was because he won them a title. So they have the ultimate score. But in reality, neither school really wanted their head coach, and this went on for several years.

Point being, if we can’t land Kiffin, I’m not sure something similar isn’t the correct path. The landscape right now behind him is barren, but that could change in another 12 to 24 months. I get that the idea of blah to bad performance during that stretch sounds horrific. But so is the idea of grabbing one of these average names and talking about a $30 million buyout in two years. The signature difference is they at least had competence where we do not. But maybe there’s someone in staff we can give the reigns to while we wait. At least we’d be liquid and could pounce when the candidate is right. Again, not advocating this as the ideal situation, but as a back up if option one doesn’t come through. It worked for both of those schools and may not have if they had settled.

Frankly, this is exactly why backing up the brinks truck to Urban's house for a short-term contract is the ideal move. Get him in, let him do his magic, and if he finds a successor...great; but if not, some younger guys out there doing the growing may become great options.

Or, that guy at Boston College for the next step.

I have been drinking (shocking, I know)!

 

[soflagator]

Frankly, this is exactly why backing up the brinks truck to Urban's house for a short-term contract is the ideal move. Get him in, let him do his magic, and if he finds a successor...great; but if not, some younger guys out there doing the growing may become great options.

Or, that guy at Boston College for the next step.

I have been drinking (shocking, I know)!

It’s not that easy. You can’t just back up a brinks truck to Meyer’s house. I’m sure his neighborhood is gated for starters. You gotta get past the guard shack. He’s ringing the landline to get you buzzed in and it’s landscaping day or everyone has AirPods in. I get that you’re hammered, but there’s just a lot more to consider here.

 

[Altitude Gator]

It’s not that easy. You can’t just back up a brinks truck to Meyer’s house. I’m sure his neighborhood is gated for starters. You gotta get past the guard shack. He’s ringing the landline to get you buzzed in and it’s landscaping day or everyone has AirPods in. I get that you’re hammered, but there’s just a lot more to consider here.

Honestly, you think the brinks truck cares about the gate and the rent-a-cop? I am thinking Beverly Hills Cop 2 (or 3 - whichever was the one with the race track and that blonde creature that was married to Stalone). Just rush in - drop the cash - kidnap him and get him to work!!!

 

[soflagator]

Honestly, you think the brinks truck cares about the gate and the rent-a-cop? I am thinking Beverly Hills Cop 2 (or 3 - whichever was the one with the race track and that blonde creature that was married to Stalone). Just rush in - drop the cash - kidnap him and get him to work!!!

You have to at least leave a not for Shelley. This is precisely why she doesn’t want him returning to coaching.

 

[Altitude Gator]

You have to at least leave a not for Shelley. This is precisely why she doesn’t want him returning to coaching.

Throw out a couple hot chicks and an unlimited line at Spurrier's and he can put her out of mind (and, frankly, with enough money, she has excused worst behavior than this).

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I think it would have to get pretty ugly when the search actually starts for a situation like that to happen. And like law said, there's not any ideal replacements on staff.

No, I didn't say ideal. I said there are zero tenable possibilities on staff. There is no one even slightly capable of doing the job at all. There is no one who is even a competent coordinator, so you certainly couldn't promote one of them, because they can't even do their job now much less additional duties. Honestly Sale, RR and probably AA should be fired before Billy. That might at least boost the morale. Promote someone, maybe Chatman to DC. Let Callaway actually call plays. Tell Billy to just stand there and looks stupid.

You guys realize that when we fire Billy and promote someone, we have to give them a HC contract to act for two months, right? Do you want to pay Sale or someone else an extra mil for a few months work?

 

[Durty South Swamp]

there isnt a single person on this staff worthy of an iterim tag. not one. that's how certifiably horrid napier and his band of losers are. juluke is a good rb coach, but that's it. if we HAD to name someone, it would be callaway but id rather him just call plays during the games and have no HC.

losing napiers dead and decaying weight alone would raise our win total by 2-3 minimum, even without a named interim filling in. the dude is a giant boat anchor tied to this team's neck.