Saudi oil tankers hit by ‘sabotage attack’ amid Iran standoff

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    This could get very interesting.
     
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    The attacks on the two shios = No mention: was it a rocket attack? launched from where? Any eye witnesses? Where's the real story?
     
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    We need to get the f**k out of there. Why do we need to fight SA's battles? They buy a $h!tload of weapons from us. They can take care of their own damn selves. We have absolutely nothing to gain from being there right now.
     
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      Bc Iran has been punching us in the dick every 2-3 years since 1979.

      It is LONG past time to put a boot up their ass.
       
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        If we engage with Iran, we certainly should bomb their nuclear station out of commission. Also swoop up some pallets of cash. :box:
         
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          Guys...it's begun.
          Explosive new development from the Middle East. President Trump authorizes a firm response to Iran...

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            Wow.


             
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              There is and this is the tip of the iceberg.
               
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                  Outlines it well. The biggest two risks are the economic disruption (I don't think there's any coincidence Iran hit opposite ends of the oil supply stream--one end in the Gulf and the other end on the Red Sea pipeline as a reminder of their capabilities) and the visual optics of a Tet-style offensive across the entire Middle East via their proxies. The US would win a conflict..even an insurgent one vs Iranian proxies.

                  The Iranians are gambling on Trump's domestic and intl unpopularity and the proximity to the 2020 election to make their move. The Russians and Chinese are privately telling them to back off (Russia wants to be seen as the ME leader and Iran represents a challenge to that; China knows the economic disruption would cripple their economy); but Iran sees their chance and is wanting to play their hand.
                   
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                    We are now pumping enough oil to cover a disruption in the supply.
                     
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                    Indeed, our own supply would mostly be safe...and we'd likely even profit based on opening all the shale wells and exporting the surplus.

                    But our European and Asian allies (who are more reliant on ME oil than we are) would suffer; and there would definitely be price shocks to the markets, at a minimum.
                     
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                    That is all fine with me. Let our allies buy it from us. We are reliable and dependable, unlike Russian oil. And if countries in the ME suffer, that is a real shame.
                     
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                      Sunni Shia death match.
                       
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                        I think the point you're missing is that we'll all suffer. The price of oil fluctuates upon market demand. If some of the world's largest suppliers can no longer supply their oil to the market or there's a fear of such, the price of oil WILL go up for everyone, including us.

                        Every Middle East conflict has caused spikes in the price of oil. A war where Iran takes off the gloves and attacks oil infrastructure in neighboring countries will cause a large price spike.
                         
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                        But the money comes back here to a larger degree since the oil is supplied from here.
                         

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