Should the 3 point line be banned from college and pro basketball?

[NVGator]

I hate baseball anymore.

 

[Gatordiddy]

Its just a part of the game

It's part of the National League game... not the American League.

The only reason pitchers can't hit is because nobody makes them hit.

Bingo... and until both leagues start worrying about this, then pitchers will continue to ignore this facet of the game. And it's not like they just all of a sudden forgot how to hit when they hit the Majors. Most of the pitchers have sucked for quite a while. It's a habit.

And besides, NL pitchers might only get 50-60 plate appearances in a whole friggin' season, so why bother forcing them to hit? They hit 9th in the batting order for a reason.

The attitude is... they aren't every day players, and a wicked slider and a 95mph fastball is a lot more important.

 

[Ray Finkle]

The three point line didn't ruin the game. It's the lack of consistency in officiating. On one hand, you look at a guy wrong and it's a foul. Way too strict. On the other hand, you can take 5 steps, eurostep, jump a few times, then shoot. Way too lenient. God knows how they determine a charge anymore. It's the sport with the most judgement calls and it's terrible the way the go about it.

 

[rogdochar]

I miss big men with good post games. The dream shake? Sky hook? Shaq beating peeps up down low. Kevin Mchale. I miss that gave. Today’s game hasn’t evolved. It is a devolution of the game. That is why I don’t watch much any more other than my gators.

Fear of going outside = agoraphobia.
Fear of going inside = shaqaphobia.

 

[no1g8r]

No, keep the 3-point line. It adds a skill element to the game that makes it more exciting to watch, and provides more opportunity for a late-game comeback from a double-digit deficit.

For the Gators, this year, along with some of Donovan's early years, has proven that you can't be consistently competitive in college basketball without a good combination of inside and outside scoring, Some of the best memories from the 06-07 championship years came when the ball would go inside to Noah or Horford, the defense would collapse on them, and our bigs would kick the ball out to a wide-open Lee for three. If not for the 3-point shot, the ball would have more likely gone out for higher percentage, less exciting mid-range jumper.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

Watching these pitchers attempt to swing a bat is literally embarrassing for the game.

I'd rather see pitchers become complete baseball players by at least learning to bunt or at least put the ball into play to move a runner to the next base...

 

[Concrete Helmet]

Its just a part of the game. All the other players know how to hit. I'm sure there are plenty of humans who are stellar fielders who can't hit worth a crap. Those guys don't play professional baseball because there are guys who can field as well as hit. I fail to see why pitching is any different. The only reason pitchers can't hit is because nobody makes them hit. We turn specialists into superstars. The real superstars are guys that can do it all.

Bob Gibson agrees...there was a pitcher who could go yard any time he was at bat. 243 batting average and 24 lifetime HR's....

 

[Concrete Helmet]

Does anyone else think that stupid line has ruined the game? Now you have asshats standing around that line for entire games. In my opinion, it has ruined a lot of the creativity of the game. If it was removed, how would the game change? Would players actually have to play the effing game?

Discuss.

The 3 pointer was put into the game so that teams who had fallen behind had a legit chance to get back into the game without using up all the clock.....Back in the 70's when I watched college basketball it was RARE to see a team come back from more than a 6-8 point lead. It also helped space out the players on the floor since the game had become more about packing it down into the paint.
In my humble opinion I'd rather they raise the hoop to 11ft and leave the 3 pointer.

 

[oxrageous]

The 3-point line was around in the NBA in the 1980's and 90's, but I don't recall teams being completely dependent on it like I see today. They had polished mid-range and inside games. I cannot watch the crap now.

College basketball is even worse. Most teams just stand around and jack 3's for 70% of the game. To me, it's ruined a lot of the skill of the game.

I don't doubt it should still have some kind of role, but it needs to be altered somehow. However, even if you moved the effing line back to half court, you'd have jackasses standing back there (practically off the TV screen) the entire game. Puke.

 

[no1g8r]

I'd rather see pitchers become complete baseball players by at least learning to bunt or at least put the ball into play to move a runner to the next base...

When the Atlanta Braves had their championship run in the 90's, all 3 of their starting pitchers, Glavine, Maddox, and Avery, could at least bunt runners over (Avery was the weakest bunter of the three). Both Glavine and Maddux had decent batting averages. Glavine's was .289 in '96, and 9 seasons over .200. Maddux had 5 HRs in his career, and 84 RBIs, and 4 seasons over .200

A pitcher's at-bat should not be a throwaway AB.

 

[no1g8r]

The 3-point line was around in the NBA in the 1980's and 90's, but I don't recall teams being completely dependent on it like I see today. They had polished mid-range and inside games.

I wasn't even thinking about the NBA. I stopped watching that when they stopped playing defense, and scoring in every game became like an all-star game.

 

[t-gator]

The three point line didn't ruin the game. It's the lack of consistency in officiating. On one hand, you look at a guy wrong and it's a foul. Way too strict. On the other hand, you can take 5 steps, eurostep, jump a few times, then shoot. Way too lenient. God knows how they determine a charge anymore. It's the sport with the most judgement calls and it's terrible the way the go about it.

This is right on. They seriously let guys take 3 and 4 steps now. I tried to watch the rockets and somebody the other night and apparently it's illegal to block james hardens shot. It's pretty rough

 

[divits]

There used to be plenty of good hitting pitchers in the 60’s and 70’s. Many of them were used as pinch hitters in fact.

 

[78]

There's an easy fix for the proliferation of threes. Perimeter defense. It's an 82-game sked. In most cases you cant motivate these guys to want to play D night in and night out.

Funny how it all of sudden happens in the playoffs.

 

[stephenPE]

Does anyone else think that stupid line has ruined the game? Now you have asshats standing around that line for entire games. In my opinion, it has ruined a lot of the creativity of the game. If it was removed, how would the game change? Would players actually have to play the effing game?

Discuss.

ON THIS ONE my friend, Ox, we agree. The game is not the same anymore. Take away the three step layup and the 3pt line and you will see real basketball again...........

 

[stephenPE]

There used to be plenty of good hitting pitchers in the 60’s and 70’s. Many of them were used as pinch hitters in fact.

AND if they have the balls (no pun intended ) to throw at you then they should have to stand in there too.

 

[stephenPE]

The only reason pitchers can't hit is because nobody makes them hit.

exactly. Early in their career your best athletes were usually pitchers and they could by GOD hit then. We talking kid ball. But then in college and later they ONLY Pitch and not work on hitting. Its like saying you cannot hit the QB cause he is so important. Fck that. if you are in the game, part of the game THEN PLAY the game........
what happened to the yea or nay on the 3pt shot.............we devolve this thread into the slowest boring game on earth............(most of the time)

 

[Zambo]

When the Atlanta Braves had their championship run in the 90's, all 3 of their starting pitchers, Glavine, Maddox, and Avery, could at least bunt runners over (Avery was the weakest bunter of the three). Both Glavine and Maddux had decent batting averages. Glavine's was .289 in '96, and 9 seasons over .200. Maddux had 5 HRs in his career, and 84 RBIs, and 4 seasons over .200

A pitcher's at-bat should not be a throwaway AB.

Smoltz wasn't terrible either but his at-bats obviously went way down after he became a closer. He had a few seasons batting over .200 and got on base over 25% of the time. Not great for a position player, but hardly a "throwaway" at-bat.

 

[neteng]

Basketball is stoopid. I am all for making a 4 point line. I am also all for making a 6 point basket which would be a second goal on each half that is twice the height as the current one. Can we also make a random thing that punches a ball out of a sure make that is set up on a random timer? Would love to see a game winning swish actually turn out to be a game losing deny.

 

[heversle]

No. Chicks dig the long ball. It’s the opposition’s problem if they can’t stop it, just like it’s their problem if they can’t stop a guy from dunking all game. Hell, I say there should be a 4 pt shot for anything past 28 feet. You can’t tell me it isn’t exciting to see a guy like Curry or Thompson in the zone, scoring 13 or 14 in a game.