Something feels different about these riots

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  1. wrpgator

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    Yes, the article mentioned addition of a spring plunger to force the bolt closed.
     
  2. wrpgator

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    Agree. From the article:
    "Subsequent investigation showed combat failures of the M16E1 were partially the fault of inevitable “bugs” in the design of specific parts, sloppy manufacture, inadequate inspection, hasty fielding without adequate training, and the astonishing lack of specialized cleaning equipment needed for field maintenance. But the single most damning factor in the M16’s sorry combat performance at the time was bad ammo; the result of an unholy alliance of cost-cutting and corner-cutting."
     
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      Like cars, guns are so much more reliable these days.. :)

      Remember going through one Of the first Smith classes when they were pushing the new 645. Mine kept jamming, they were like guns fine, you’re limp wristing it pu$$y. Me guns effed up. Get new gun and run through all courses. Then I hear the head armorer going Fme, Fme... next they are stripping every gun they had. They found 3 out of spec ejectors, so like every 30 rounds or so the brass would miss the ejector. Lot of puckered asses that day when you are trying to sell a bunch of product and things go fubar on you.
       
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        Yup... this is why I don't like new to market weapons, engines, transmissions... give it a couple 'o years to work out any bugs. A new transmission is bad enough, but i don't want to trust my life to an ejector that is off by a cnnt hair while they figure it out. :lol:

        I did suspect the S&W pistols, but not as much as #1 and #2.
         
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          Clean your own house dude:
           
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          bad ammo was in part because of the use the wrong powder. they had hundreds of tons of old 30 caliber powder sitting around and used it instead. remember the army ordnance board was still a thing back then. we did not just contract everything.

          AND THEY WERE PISSED. they were pissed at their garbage rifle that would have been state-of-the-art in the 1920s** was being replaced. They weren't going to have it.

          When the M16 was first fielded mostly for special forces with commercial ammo, and of course with cleaning kits, it performed well enough that they wanted to continue to carrying the M16.

          Army ordnance was furious. It's hard to view their actions as anything but direct sabotage. American soldiers died because of their fury and incompetence. in my opinion the whole bunch should have been executed for treason.



          **I always shake my head at M14 fans. They usually people who've only carried it to the shooting range and shot it from a bench. it's not particularly accurate, military spec was five inches at a hundred yards. they're incredibly heavy, the safety is at an insane spot. magazines changes are slow and clumsy, let's talk design enhances recoil and makes rapid fire difficult, and it as long as a pike and weighs as much as a light machine gun. It really struggled unless oiled and greased innthe right spots, and in cold weather particularly. You cant add optics easily. I honestly can't make it any positive features other than nostalgia. In a 7.62x51, Id take FAL, Valmet, Galil, Cetme/G3, AR10 and several other rifles before an M14.

          They are cool looking rifles, but very mediocre in performance.
           
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            Agreed. That’s my home defense gun. Got the deer barrel and it stays loaded with #5 on top of 1/0 buck. Easy to maneuver with the short barrel. I pray I never have to use it.
             
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              A case of cost-cutting costing lives.
              The M14 was a fine weapon (as long as every squad had a BAR team, that is) as developed to stop Ivan from marching into Europe with a Mosin-Nagant on his shoulder.
               
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                And before he was fired, he chose to grovel. It didn't make any difference: “I’m not as educated on BLM as I thought I was,” Napear said. “I had no idea that when I said ‘All Lives Matter’ that it was counter to what BLM was trying to get across. I’m in pain,” he said. “I’m 60 years old and I still have a lot learn.”

                He should have taken a stand. Anyone with even a little mental capacity should be able to rightly defend "All Lives". He'd have lost his job either way, but what smothering weakness that has crept into the persona of public, white male figures is embarrassing in the extreme. You have a conviction that the day-before-yesterday goes without saying in saner times--defend it--stand your ground as your father would have done! goddammit anyhow.

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                  I'm in pain!?

                  Holy crap what a Calipussy
                   
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                    Can you guys start a thread about guns and ammo and take it there. I’m coming here to see videos of looting and rioting.

                    Thanks,
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                        schit about to get real for these looters



                        and a compilation of 'incidents'



                         
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                        another protester

                         
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                            In keeping with the thread title, why it is different today... upload_2020-6-3_13-38-24.png
                             
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