If somebody parks in a handicapped place that is not supposed to I'm not going to say anything to them. They shouldn't park in those places and they are jerks. But I'm not out to right every little wrong in the world. I don't give jerks the time of day. You're not going to accomplish much by wasting your time trying to correct jerks. Jerks carry guns too.
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Id have probably said something in passing if the opportunity was there. "Hey, you know, there are some elderly folks who really rely on these spaces..." That sort of thing, but that would have been the end of it. You dont look for conflict when carrying. Personally, I dont look for it at all... except for gatorchatter.
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And OBTW, all you guys who want to defend your ability to carry, THIS GUY is totally f'ing it up for you. At the moment he pulled the trigger, he may have felt his life was threatened, but he has no one to blame for putting himself in that position other than himself.
Every part of this was the shooters fault and if you don't see that you have no business whatsoever carrying a weapon in public.
When you're strapped you go out of your way to avoid these type of conflicts. The shooter did exactly the opposite of that. Knowing full well that he was armed, he deliberately went to the scene to confront somebody and started yelling at the woman. The black dude didn't come out of the store and push him down for no reason, he pushed him down because he was yelling at the girl. Heck if I came out of a store and found some pencil neck screaming at my wife it would be hard to resist the urge to shove the guy myself. Then the shooter pulled his weapon and the black dude immediately stopped advancing and even backed up but the shooter shot him anyway. Every single part of this incident was the shooter's fault.
If you are a conservative, hopefully you believe in the concept of responsibility and consequences for your actions. This armed ass hole is responsible for creating this entire incident and he should suffer the consequences. The right to arm and defend yourself is not an excuse for the unnecessary taking of a life. Funny how some of you guys bemoan the lack of high standards but are so quick to excuse a guy who obviously doesn't have any.
I used to think you were just an angry, negative little person. Since you started posting in the PF, I realize you’re a total fcking moron. Thanks for letting us all know who you are.
Both these guys were idiots... just for the record.
I suspect most of us Florida people have several locations in your town where folks hang out that can be easily baited into fairly innocuous physical violence by "disrespecting" them verbally, such as that seen on the video. These folks could then be hypothetically legally eliminated via your legally carried concealed weapon. I choose to keep me and my legally carried concealed weapon away from these places. And if I haven't planned ahead and am running out of gas near a place such as described, I quietly fill my tank with a credit card at the pump and keep my situational awareness on high alert. It's a shame shooter dude in the video sees it a different way. Nobody had to die that day.
"Deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony."
This really has zero to do with "stand you ground". He was knocked down by the aggressor and had no ability to flee. The issue is simple, did he reasonably believe he faced death. Reasobable doesnt mean subjectively believe, it means a reasonable person.
All of that is common stuff written in almost every self defense law in the country.
It is also a tough sell to any jury IMO that getting pushed means you were defending against a deadly assault, but I dont know what he was saying and can only see one poor angle video.
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