Texas church shooting - possibly 20 plus killed or wounded?

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  1. Detroitgator

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    I want to see a copy of his 4473s... regardless of whether it was in the NICS database (not even sure if they have to?), he would have lied several times in question 11 regarding felonies, type of discharge, and domestic abuse... or, he answered them honestly and correctly and the reviewing agency didn't care.
     
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    Specific charge?

    Bestiality I presume?
     
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    He was a prohibited possessor: OTHD and for domestic violence conviction (felony or not). Nothing I've seen offered by means of gun control would have stopped this attack.

    There are probably 50,000 false 4473s per year basicallly none of which are prosecuted and even more violent crimes committed with firearms by felons or other prohibited possessors (drug users or addicts, aliens) that also basically never get prosecuted.
     
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      My guess is he lied on it unless they are being careless as hell besides the data not getting to them.
       
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      Yes, and I looked it up, the USAF was definitely supposed to put it in NICS.
       
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        The USAF's failure to follow procedure may have gave him the access to purchase the gun, but it would not have prevented this tragedy in my opinion.

        He would have acquired one by other means no doubt.
         
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          You mean people with intent on harming/killing people aren't concerned with laws that are supposed to prevent them from doing that?
           
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            Wow. Watch this.



             
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              If you are interested, here is a very detailed interview with the hero neighbor who shot the assassin.

              He used his own AR15 to return fire on the shooter.

              You won't hear some of these details in the media.

               
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                I'll make this prediction - this whole TX church shooting story is going to fade from media coverage very quickly. If and when people hear this man's story, it will not completely fit the media's narrative of gun's are evil agenda.
                 
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                Love me some Crowder.

                I always ask people who say we need more gun laws one simple question, what specific law outside of a gun ban would you propose that would have prevented this. Naturally, there is never one presented that isn't already on the books or I get the "but, I'm not an expert" type excuse. I then say that if you think there needs to be a change, then you should at least know why and what kind of change you are demanding.
                 
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                Any liberal, actually serious about gun control, should be calling for total confiscation. And even that wouldn't prevent all of these shootings.
                 
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                @Gator Fever

                :waiting::waiting::waiting::waiting::waiting::waiting::waiting::waiting:
                 
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                That's the point I get them to usually. But it's near impossible for them to say it because they try and push the whole "no one wants to take your guns" lie. Hillary's campaign was big on overturning Heller, which would literally result in a gun ban.
                 
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                That's the problem when you try to argue with someone that only has "feelings" on their side...you know the SOMETHING has to be done crowd...even if it's not something that actually won't help
                 
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                I may have added a feeling guy to a Facebook politics group I'm in where no one on any side plays the emotion game just to watch the fireworks
                 
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