The 2006 recruiting class

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    2006 Florida
    The 5 stars (Rivals 6.1)
    Carl Johnson
    Tim Tebow
    Percy Harvin
    Brandon Spikes

    BOOM MFers. These five stars lead UF to championships. It's hard to imagine even winning the Division without them.

    Percy and Tebow were basically unstoppable. You could scheme to contain them but the fact is it wouldn't work because your X's werent as good as our Os. No LB or safety could be counted on to tackle reliably.

    However, losing Percy meant teams could focus on Tebow and stall our offense.

    Nothing matters more than the 5 stars, IMO. However if you do look at more classes you will see that even they have about a 50%ish failure rate.

    The High 4 stars (Rivals 6.0 and 5.9)

    Jarred Fayson (6.0)
    Chevon Walker (5.9)
    Jamar Hornsby
    Justin Williams
    Jacques Rickerson
    Jermaine Cunningham
    Riley Cooper
    Mon Williams

    Well, some misses or did not develop types in this batch but still pretty good production. MWilliams and Walker of course were hindered by the offense that hinders the RB's ability to produce. The same can be said for Cooper, JWilliams and Fayson.

    The Low 4 stars:
    Dustin Doe
    Corey Hobbs
    Terron Sanders
    Bryan Thomas
    Trent Pupello
    Jim Barrie
    Brandon Antwine
    Marcus Gilbert
    A.J. Jones

    Doe and Jones were big contributors. Gilbert too. A lot less results from this group. And certainly not the leaders of the team that brought us championships.

    The Three Stars (Rivals 5.7-5.5)
    Lawrence Marsh (5.7)
    Maurice Hurt (5.6)
    Brandon James (5.5)
    Markihe Anderson
    Derrick Robinson

    Pretty good results from this group. Certainly not stars but functional players. Is there a difference between a 5.8 four star and a 5.7? It's hard to see much of a difference looking at the classes. The 5.6 and 5.5s generally have a much lower success rate.

    Two Star Garbage

    Wondy Pierre-Louis

    Garbage as expected.
     
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      He had a couple clutch plays (Wondy) though...of course I can think of a few lowly rated kids that have...just remembered Verne saying his name a few times
       
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        If by clutch you mean running around like a fool flapping his arms like a scarecrow and giving up almost every pass thrown his way... then yes.

        Luckily it took a lot of injuries before we saw him on the field.
         
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          I'll always remember Wondys punt fumble recovery in the Sec championship and turned that game around
           
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            For one thing, WPL recovered the muffed punt in the SECCG to retake the momentum. Of that class, he and of course Harvin on the big run made the best plays of that game. They(‘06 class) also did virtually nothing in Jax and against the noles, and were simply role players in a few others.

            I’m not knocking them, as they were probably the best overall class we’ve ever landed. Plus no way we beat ut without Tebow or Lsu without Tebow and Coop. But that 2006 team was a very sound team all around. Not great, and some serious holes. But just a gritty good team.

            Also, Robinson never even made it to campus. Had to be one of Dan’s guys.
             
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              And not a damned "Buck" "Jack" or "Rabbit"....a/k/a Speed rush specialist amongst them....
              Amazing that you could have a very good defense with 4 guys who stuck their hand in the dirt and 3 more mofo's playing in back of them that drilled anyone in a different colored jersey that popped out between the big bodies....

              But I've been told "exotic gaps" and speed off the edge are what brings the hardware home these days.:scratchhead:
               
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                Not sure what some Cowbells and two Dwags would know about hardware.

                I guess you could say Spikes was a speed rusher when he wanted to be. Every now and then they did that exotic look where he lined up at defensive end, usually on third and forever.

                Plus I think Jermaine Cunningham was 200 when he signed. but the point is we signed one of them or not 6 to 10.

                I'd be cool with a signimg one or two of them and using them on third and Grantham only.
                 
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                I pine for 79!
                 
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                Hicks would be considered one of our light LBs of today. Otherwise, @Concrete Helmet nails it.

                Speaking of Cunningham, one of my favorite plays of the entire 2008 season was his his stunt on 3rd down against Ala in the SECCG in their final possession. The sack and his mini celebration afterward are awesome. He was underrated. And while I don’t know all the facts on the case, I’m guessing that Jimmy Johns clerk had those chips and paper cups coming.
                 
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                  But WE PLAYED Outside Linebackers then.

                  Now we play a so called "3-4" but every play, one OLB Rushbacker is up front with his hand in the dirt and the other OLB is on the bench so the nickel can play.
                   
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                    If our division wasn't littered(literally) with some of the most god awful offensive minds in the game TG and his discombobulated alignments would be run out of town on a rail.....

                    One reason teams like Miami, UK and Uvag play us deep into the 4th quarter is his one trick pony defense that seems void of solid assignment football....If any of those 3 teams had more than short school bus offensive coordinator and players we would have had 5 losses.
                     
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                      Jermaine Cunningham's rival profile lists him at 196#. I literally cant think of a lighter DE we've signed since. This would have been a funny sarcastic comment...if you were joking.

                      Not the same, but also of interest i . that AJ Jones was 180# and I dont think he ever got much above 220# even though he played Sam in a 4-3 Under (usually your biggest LB). Just a reminder that while meyer & co wanted athleticism, theyd also take a 'football player', bc they trusted their ability to scheme for him. Guys like AJ and Black wouldn't have a place in the current scheme.
                       
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                      Jermaine Cunningham played at about 260# his last couple of years and was an absolute animal on the field....You can play "DE" at 250-260 when you have 4 guys with their hand in the dirt and they have solid fundamentals.....you can't play 1 300#er, 1 250#er and a 230# on a 3 man front with 2 or 3 guys in the 205# range behind them that can't cover a TE or have the speed run down a RB before he tears off 25 yards down the sideline....@#fundamentaldefenseisnotathingofthepast...
                       
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                        Even if true (but he played at under 250# his Sr year), I don't get what that has to do with you saying we didn't recruit a speed guy, when that's exactly what he was projected as.

                        I agree that our current #s are crazy if that's all you're saying. I believe in getting guys that present issues without giving up glaring weaknesses. Our current issue is that granthem wants guys that present issues, but doesn't care about the 2nd part. A 245# DE, if he's the only undersized guy, isn't a huge deal, bc it isn't a glaring enough weakness to let a team completely scheme for it. The problem, which I think is what youre saying, is having a 245# DE with a 270# DT right next to him.
                         
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                          How many 5 stars are on our current roster? 2?
                           
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                            I think were on the same page but my point is you put the right body(given proper talent)into a fundamentally sound system. Hell Jaye Howard came as a safety I believe-200# or so and became a top 12-15 all time defensive lineman in UF history playing at 290# by this last 2 years....now we seem to have guys who come in at 215# and leave 4 years later at 208#:lol2:
                             
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                              lol, we're in agreement on the scheme, but your memory is failing u about players!! Jaye was a SDE and was already ~235# when he got to UF.
                               
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                              It worked great at Looovull.

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                                One incoming DT, one incoming LB, the RB that’s transferring in, and the Lotso bear kid from PSU. So 4 total.
                                 
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                                  Add 1 for Cox. But subtract 2 if you count the transfers' 'new rankings'.
                                   

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