The Curt Cignetti thread: Signs contract extension for $8 million a year

[Swamp Donkey]

I love it there. Rolling hills with hardwoods. One of my favorite movies of all time was filmed there...Breaking Away.

Yeah, Im not sure the movie was accurate. Flat and typical midwest. Got take a look at googlemaps streetview of how beautiful Bloomington is. Google Maps It will do for a coffee and a piss and little more.

I still think he leaves. The extension says nothing about his buyout.

 

[oxrageous]

I’m not even knocking Cignetti.

You've been knocking Cignetti since his name was first floated. Not sure why you can't be honest about that. You think he'd be a lousy choice for UF, you're entitled to that opinion.

I think the guy is a winner and would win anywhere, including here. He has the ability to change loser mentalities very quickly. I was fascinated by that ESPN article I posted about him.

I think your notion that he's "scared" or something of the pressure to coach in the SEC is utterly absurd. He thinks he can win hardware at Indiana, he obviously loves the area. So far that hasn't been unproven. He's 10-0 and looking at a playoff spot. A good coach has a better chance of winning a NC in a crappy conference because it's a much easier pathway. Perhaps that's just being smart and not scared. I think guys like Dan Lanning and Lincoln Riley have the same mentality.

His payday is also already huge - he's making more than Billy Napier now.

 

[neteng]

Yeah, Im not sure the movie was accurate. Flat and typical midwest. Got take a look at googlemaps streetview of how beautiful Bloomington is. Google Maps It will do for a coffee and a piss and little more.

I still think he leaves. The extension says nothing about his buyout.

Yeah. It is accurate. Ive cycled there and know exactly what the terrain is like. I participated in the Little 500.

And I identify as a Cutter!



The town itself is just a college town and nothing special. I was speaking more to getting out of town.

 

[soflagator]

You've been knocking Cignetti since his name was first floated. Not sure why you can't be honest about that. You think he'd be a lousy choice for UF, you're entitled to that opinion.

I think the guy is a winner and would win anywhere, including here. He has the ability to change loser mentalities very quickly. I was fascinated by that ESPN article I posted about him.

I think your notion that he's "scared" or something of the pressure to coach in the SEC is utterly absurd. He thinks he can win hardware at Indiana, he obviously loves the area. So far that hasn't been unproven. He's 10-0 and looking at a playoff spot. A good coach has a better chance of winning a NC in a crappy conference because it's a much easier pathway. Perhaps that's just being smart and not scared. I think guys like Dan Lanning and Lincoln Riley have the same mentality.

His payday is also already huge - he's making more than Billy Napier now.

I’ve been very honest that while I think he’s done a great job at IU, I still have questions. I’ve also said that based on that he wouldn’t, but I’d be fine if he were to be given the shot here.

As for his signing an extension, it absolutely means that he prefers a less pressure job where there are predefined limitations than to land a major job. Even take UF out if the equation this year. At this point in 2025 we could realistically see Oklahoma, UF, Aub, USC, even potentially slight chances of OhSt, Michigan, LSU or Alabama. Yes, it’s a payday but it’s still a far cry from what he could make, which tells me he’s comfortable, something I can respect. Similar to Lane, I have no desire to have someone come in and go through the motions or feels they can just win with scheme and motivation or because they’re just “a winner”. I have no issue with either of them if they stay where they’re at because it’s better for all parties.

To your last point, Indiana is ranked fifth right now behind three 1-loss teams, in large part because they feel that while thieve had a nice run, they’re not a serious contender. For that matter, if teams like Ala, uga or even the vols didn’t have 2 losses, they’d still be in front of them and IU would be 8th as they were in the first ranking. They’re at 5th almost because someone has to be there, not because they truly feel the Hoosiers are one of the 5 best teams in the country.

And the conference has nothing to do with it. Big Ten teams like Ohio State, Oregon, Michigan, USC will always have a legit shot at winning it all. It’s not the SEC but they get tested and have talent. But as multiple people have said, teams, like Indiana will make the playoff, maybe even host around one game and probably get bounced by a team like Alabama or uga who’s stumbled a few times and fallen back in the rankings simply because of the grind. The easy path argument was way more applicable when it mean winning two games in a 4 team playoff, and certainly easier in the BCS era. The reality is it’s become harder for those mid level programs to win it all, not easier, because of how many wins it would take. I get that you like him, and I can respect what he’s done. But he’s not winning anything at Indiana, and he knows that. Or he’s dumb and believes he can. Again, not knocking him for either. I just wouldn’t want him as my primary choice.

 

[Mr2Bits]

I’ve been very honest that while I think he’s done a great job at IU, I still have questions. I’ve also said that based on that he wouldn’t, but I’d be fine if he were to be given the shot here.

As for his signing an extension, it absolutely means that he prefers a less pressure job where there are predefined limitations than to land a major job. Even take UF out if the equation this year. At this point in 2025 we could realistically see Oklahoma, UF, Aub, USC, even potentially slight chances of OhSt, Michigan, LSU or Alabama. Yes, it’s a payday but it’s still a far cry from what he could make, which tells me he’s comfortable, something I can respect. Similar to Lane, I have no desire to have someone come in and go through the motions or feels they can just win with scheme and motivation or because they’re just “a winner”. I have no issue with either of them if they stay where they’re at because it’s better for all parties.

To your last point, Indiana is ranked fifth right now behind three 1-loss teams, in large part because they feel that while thieve had a nice run, they’re not a serious contender. For that matter, if teams like Ala, uga or even the vols didn’t have 2 losses, they’d still be in front of them and IU would be 8th as they were in the first ranking. They’re at 5th almost because someone has to be there, not because they truly feel the Hoosiers are one of the 5 best teams in the country.

And the conference has nothing to do with it. Big Ten teams like Ohio State, Oregon, Michigan, USC will always have a legit shot at winning it all. It’s not the SEC but they get tested and have talent. But as multiple people have said, teams, like Indiana will make the playoff, maybe even host around one game and probably get bounced by a team like Alabama or uga who’s stumbled a few times and fallen back in the rankings simply because of the grind. The easy path argument was way more applicable when it mean winning two games in a 4 team playoff, and certainly easier in the BCS era. The reality is it’s become harder for those mid level programs to win it all, not easier, because of how many wins it would take. I get that you like him, and I can respect what he’s done. But he’s not winning anything at Indiana, and he knows that. Or he’s dumb and believes he can. Again, not knocking him for either. I just wouldn’t want him as my primary choice.

You’re going to be pissed when they beat Ohio State this weekend

 

[soflagator]

You’re going to be pissed when they beat Ohio State this weekend

Well, for starters, I’m officially worried. If there’s one thing you’re known for, it’s accurate predictions.

But again, I’m not sure why I would be pissed. I’ve said now, several times that if that were the direction we go, I would be fine with it. Not my first choice, but I do see him as an upgrade over the current staff. Good for him if he does. And I think that bodes well for him at a higher profile job. Maybe he could win championships. But he’s not doing so at Indiana.

 

[oxrageous]

But he’s not winning anything at Indiana, and he knows that. Or he’s dumb and believes he can.

He's going to be in the playoff, so I guess we'll see. I see them going all the way. Your post after it happens will be pretty amusing.

"Well, I meant after THIS year!"

 

[Swamp Donkey]

He's going to be in the playoff, so I guess we'll see. I see them going all the way. Your post after it happens will be pretty amusing.

"Well, I meant after THIS year!"

This one's going to be fun.

 

[soflagator]

He's going to be in the playoff, so I guess we'll see. I see them going all the way. Your post after it happens will be pretty amusing.

"Well, I meant after THIS year!"

My guess is this thread will be locked and not open to further replies within hours of their playoff loss.

Again, you seem to be seeing this as personal with him, and taking it too personally yourself. I think there are few coaches who could do what he’s done at IU this year. I’m not entirely sold, but have nothing bad to say about him. He’s doing as well or better than anyone could expect there. I just don’t think they have the depth and talent to withstand the better, more compete teams, even if he’s as good as them coaching wise. Once again, not a knock. Meyer or Saban would have difficulty taking that squad and beating some of the teams they’d have to go through to win it all this season. You’re looking for a fight for some reason, and I’m not sure why. I’d suspect a delving into hard drugs, but you seem pretty straight lace, so I’m out of ideas.

 

[neteng]

Its silly to put what Indiana has done as fail/succeed on the OSU game. They have consistently beat the crap out of teams that have way more talent than them...on the road or at home. I dont think anyone in their right mind thinks they are going to beat OSU and to throw it away after that game as if thats all that matter is loser mentality. I think OSU has way too much talent (with great coaching/development to go a long with it) for Indiana to overcome.

 

[oxrageous]

Its silly to put what Indiana has done as fail/succeed on the OSU game. They have consistently beat the crap out of teams that have way more talent than them...on the road or at home. I dont think anyone in their right mind thinks they are going to beat OSU and to throw it away after that game as if thats all that matter is loser mentality. I think OSU has way too much talent (with great coaching/development to go a long with it) for Indiana to overcome.

Nebraska (who IU beat by 7 TD's) came about an inch from beating OSU at home just a few weeks ago. This OSU team is not a juggernaut.

 

[neteng]

Nebraska (who IU beat by 7 TD's) came about an inch from beating OSU at home just a few weeks ago. This OSU team is not a juggernaut.

No, they are not a juggernaut...but...

...the point is, people acting like Cignetti is a loser after a loss to OSU this weekend are morons. Thats a ridiculous amount of talent advantage that OSU has this weekend on their home field. The whole 'lets wait and pass judgement on Cignetti after they play OSU' take is just dumb and ignorant. Go look at the teams they beat the crap out of already while noting the talent advantage they overcame to do so. I dont need the OSU game to make my decision on Cignetti...the guy can coach. Is he the right fit for Florida, I dont know, but he can freaking coach.

 

[Silverback Gator]

No, they are not a juggernaut...but...

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...the point is, people acting like Cignetti is a loser after a loss to OSU this weekend are morons. Thats a ridiculous amount of talent advantage that OSU has this weekend on their home field. The whole 'lets wait and pass judgement on Cignetti after they play OSU' take is just dumb and ignorant. Go look at the teams they beat the crap out of already while noting the talent advantage they overcame to do so. I dont need the OSU game to make my decision on Cignetti...the guy can coach. Is he the right fit for Florida, I dont know, but he can freaking coach.

Why would you need to debate that? He's not winning by luck. I bet Day is nervous and Cignetti, not.

 

[neteng]

Why would you need to debate that? He's not winning by luck. I bet Day is nervous and Cignetti, not.

Because there is a take from people here as well as talking heads on tv that keep saying...lets wait and see how they look against OSU.

 

[neteng]

I wish he was our head coach. Says all the right things for me. But the more I listen the more I think he is a Big10 guy through and through, nor is he leaving IU anytime soon. The only knock I have is with the huge PR Indiana is getting this year there is no bump to his current recruiting class.

 

[soflagator]

I wish he was our head coach. Says all the right things for me. But the more I listen the more I think he is a Big10 guy through and through, nor is he leaving IU anytime soon. The only knock I have is with the huge PR Indiana is getting this year there is no bump to his current recruiting class.

Once they start allowing NIL in the B10, all that will change. He’ll be able to recruit just as well there as at a place like UF and places like OhSt and Michigan won’t have a chokehold on the bulk of conference talent. I’ve been told that several times by some terrific people on here. So just wait.

 

[neteng]

Once they start allowing NIL in the B10, all that will change. He’ll be able to recruit just as well there as at a place like UF and places like OhSt and Michigan won’t have a chokehold on the bulk of conference talent. I’ve been told that several times by some terrific people on here. So just wait.

...or is my sarcasm receiver not working?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

 

[Swamp Donkey]

So, does Indiana play Ohio State again in a few weeks?

Edit: how could I forget that fooking Oregon is in the Big 10?

 

[oxrageous]

Cignetti should be fired.