The Fun N Gun: Remember when this was us?

[Swamp Donkey]

Urbs and Mullen's offense is what I like

mehhhhhhhhhh

 

[InstiGATOR1]

I must be the only one who loves Urbs and am glad we didn't rehire SOS. Guy is a legend and defines everything it means to be a Florida Gator but his time had passed. Urbs and Mullen's offense is what I like

I remember all the discussion on various board at that time arguing that Meyer was a much better hire as he would be at UF long after Spurrier retired for good. Here we are 15 years later and Spurrier is still winning games while Meyer is on his second "health" related retirement.

The Meyer hire was a $100 million mistake. Now as someone pointed out above, it was Machen's mistake not Foley's, but it was at least a $100 million mistake. So you can love Meyer all you want, but hiring him over Spurrier greatly hurt UF's athletic department.

Just imagine had Spurrier coached UF from say 2005 to 2017. Let's say Spurrier was not as successful as his first time around. Still he might have averaged 6 SEC wins a year for 78 more SEC wins to become the coach with the most SEC wins in history. Imagine given UF's football history if UF had the coach to have won the most SEC games in history.

Additionally, UF's jersey sales, UF attendance etc would have not tailed off nearly as much and I think $8 million a year lost is a conservative figure. The cost of hiring Meyer could be well over that $100 million figure and it does not even calculate in the damage to the brand of the Meyer era of arrests and bad behavior that Machen allowed because he could not afford to have the guy he snubbed Spurrier for fail.

In 2001, UF had the most admirable football program in the country. Since then, the powers that be at UF have allowed the brand to be harmed because they could not stand to bring Spurrier back any of four chances they had.

 

[78]

$100m mistake? How did we arrive at that math? How do you label two national championships a mistake?

 

[InstiGATOR1]

$100m mistake? How did we arrive at that math? How do you label two national championships a mistake?

Because the guy, Meyer, then bailed on UF and UF's revenue has been down since then. Sure during the Meyer 50% successful 6 seasons, UF may have even had a bump over the Spurrier years in revenue. But hiring Meyer meant not having Spurrier for the last decade or most of the last decade and it was a terrible mistake for the program.

 

[78]

Because the guy, Meyer, then bailed on UF and UF's revenue has been down since then. Sure during the Meyer 50% successful 6 seasons, UF may have even had a bump over the Spurrier years in revenue. But hiring Meyer meant not having Spurrier for the last decade or most of the last decade and it was a terrible mistake for the program.

Got any figures to show our revenue was higher when he left?

 

[InstiGATOR1]

Got any figures to show our revenue was higher when he left?

Of course not, AS I ALWAYS DO, I would have said I did a study if I had done a study of this issue. I am making a rough guess as the words "conservative estimate" indicated. You can choose to disbelieve that it was a $100 million dollar at least mistake and I can choose to believe what I said. That is what makes a message board.

All I know is that for 12 seasons from 1990 to 2001, UF was in the national picture late into the season most years. In the Meyer years UF was only in the national picture 3 of his 6 years. So it is pretty clear to me that though Meyer is a great coach, he hollows out programs and hiring him instead of Spurrier at that time was an expensive mistake.

 

[no1g8r]

All I know is that for 12 seasons from 1990 to 2001, UF was in the national picture late into the season most years. In the Meyer years UF was only in the national picture 3 of his 6 years. So it is pretty clear to me that though Meyer is a great coach, he hollows out programs and hiring him instead of Spurrier at that time was an expensive mistake.

I would have hated to see Spurrier’s college career end at UF the way that it ended at SCar. He’ll always be a legend here because his coaching career at UF ended too early, rather than too late.

 

[oxrageous]

Because the guy, Meyer, then bailed on UF and UF's revenue has been down since then. Sure during the Meyer 50% successful 6 seasons, UF may have even had a bump over the Spurrier years in revenue. But hiring Meyer meant not having Spurrier for the last decade or most of the last decade and it was a terrible mistake for the program.

All Foley had to do was make a decent hire and all would have been fine. Instead, he hired a chimp.

Calling Meyer a mistake is asinine even for you. I could easily turn it around to say that hiring Foley was a mistake - one of the biggest in the history of the program. He’s the one who burned down the program, not Meyer.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

How could Fooley have known that CUM might leave? It isn't like he quit the prior December also due to "health reasons".

 

[InstiGATOR1]

Calling Meyer a mistake is asinine even for you.

Yep a real leader of this site you are. What an absolute fool you are.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Yep a real leader of this site you are. What an absolute fool you are.

 

[78]

How could Fooley have known that CUM might leave? It isn't like he quit the prior December also due to "health reasons".

Lol, it's mind boggling to think that he had a full year to create a succession plan and instead settled on a vein-popping looney after a four-hour interview.

 

[T REX]

Meyer was the right hire. The best hire at the time. We didnt know how much of a snake oil salesman he was back then. Two titles. We sold our soul. We've paid our price and Hopefully we're headed back to the mountain.

Ever wonder how much of meyer rubs off on his assistants? I hope none.

 

[78]

Meyer was the right hire. The best hire at the time. We didnt know how much of a snake oil salesman he was back then. Two titles. We sold our soul. We've paid our price and Hopefully we're headed back to the mountain.

Ever wonder how much of meyer rubs off on his assistants? I hope none.

If it's intensity, work ethic and the ST coach is in on it, I hope all of it.

 

[SeabeeGator]

Got any figures to show our revenue was higher when he left?

He’s just making **** up and pretending it’s real. Same as the success=10 wins or the offense isn’t good unless it’s 400+ ypg (which he went back on because the opponents at the end of the season were too easy). To be a fly on the wall of insti’s mind would be epic...

 

[Sec14Gator]

To be a fly on the wall of insti’s mind would be epic...

 

[-THE DUDE-]

I just got accepted to CU Boulder for grad school. I’ve never dealt with snow. Going to be an interesting year.

Boulder is a great town...been a few times and my brother is a season ticket holder there for football. Weather isn’t too bad actually...lots of snow but not bitter cold

 

[Minister of Information]

Pretty soon that era will be thirty years ago.

I love SOS but he was never a true CEO and that is what you need now at the top level. He just wants to draw up a few ball plays and make you look stupid when he dials them up at the right moment. The rest of the job was always half hearted with him. You need a guy with passion for the details and the process. That ain't SOS.

 

[oxrageous]

Yep a real leader of this site you are. What an absolute fool you are.

Please explain this. Was calling what you said "asinine" too much for you to take? How you have survived here with your thin skin all these years is a minor miracle.

"Leader"? My God, it's a message board. I'm not leading young men into battle here.

 

[gatormandan]

Yep a real leader of this site you are. What an absolute fool you are.

So, what would our losses be if Foley hired another good coach after Meyer instead? And since he didn't, why is that Meyers fault? I doubt anyone liked the ending of the Meyer era but many sure enjoyed it while it was in full swing. Blame Foley. The guy was clueless.