The Green Mile

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    One of my favorite movies (thus my avatar). The political connection would be that the main character, Michael Duncan Smith, was Omarosa's (yep that Omarosa) significant other.

    Anyway the main character's name was John Coffey ("like the drink but spelled different")

    He was unfairly convicted for killing those two children and sentenced to death.

    While on death row he reached through the bars, grabbed Tom Hanks by the crotch and cured him of his urinary trac infection. On a side note the first time they shot that take Hanks stuffed a big cucumber in his pants.

    When the guy killed the pet mouse by stomping on it he brought it back to life.

    He cured the warden's wife of cancer.

    When Hanks realized he was innocent he asked him how far he could run because how was he going to explain to a Holy God why he executed an innocent man? Coffey said he was ready to die because the sins of the world were like shards of glass to his head.

    Coffey's last statement before being executed was "I'm sorry for who I am."

    What was his name again? John Coffey.

    Initials? J.C.

    Pretty cool how Stephen King (who is not a Christian) wove that Christian thread throughout the story and 95% of the people who see the movie miss it.

    Hope I'm not out of line for posting this in the Political Forum but I don't see another it would fit.

    Edit after being corrected: Michael Clarke Duncan
     
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      To summarize.

      Executed for a crime he didn't commit.
      Healed the sick (Hank's and the warden's wife)
      Resurrected the dead (mouse).
      Shards of glass a reference to the crown of thorns.
      "I am" is God's name. (Burning Bush: "I am who I am. Tell Pharaoh I am sent you. Before Moses was, I am.
       
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      Interesting. I never picked up on that before. Certainly an odd series of coincidental similarities if not intentional.
       
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      SK is a twisted genius. Spock does the mind meld on King he probably needs a tranquilizer after its over. But I read that stuff when I get my hands on it........
       
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        Had to be intentional. Found this just now.

        "We each owe a death," says Paul Edgecomb, a death-row prison guard in the film The Green Mile. Life is somewhat routine for this odd community of prisoners and guards until a wrongfully accused, gentle giant is added to death row. He humbly offers the power to heal the sick and even raise the dead. This miracle man changes the lives of prisoners and guards alike. What happens when a life-giver is injected into a place of death, where he too is sentenced to die?

        This discussion guide will help you explore some of the poignant themes in The Green Mile, such as the final judgment, transcendence and hope, and self-sacrificial empathy versus self-righteous condemnation.

        The Green Mile
         
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          Lincoln's secretary was a Kennedy and Kennedy's secretary was a Lincoln. Kennedy was shot while riding in a Lincoln, though Lincoln was shot was in a Ford (theatre). Spooky stuff!
           
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            I told people I wanted to write after I retired. A man walked up to me 30 min. before my last class of my last day of teaching offering me
            a job to write for his newspapers. If that dont make you believe in God, nothing will. That Kennedy stuff is cool.

             
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              Back on topic:



              Just picked up on another nugget. When Jesus died the world went dark. Watch to the end.
               
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              Michael Clarke Duncan. Or around here, KCGator or just KC.

              Alex.
               
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                First I ever heard that or thought about the initials meaning that. I know King had the devil under different names in a lot of his books but never even thought about this connection.
                 
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                The real question is, do you have to believe in magic to understand the teachings and morals of the story and shape your ethics around them? Or, in true 21st century fashion, do you find a single inconsistency in the story and use that to discredit the greater message?
                 
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                When you reject the Christian worldview something else must replace it. So the question is what is your worldview, and can it consistently account for ethics and morals?

                Do you believe man is the billionth iteration of the first single cell amoeba? Is that your worldview?
                 
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                Are you of the opinion that I reject the Christian worldview, a term which I assume is basically the Judeo-Christian ethic?
                 
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                  Maybe I do...honestly I can’t remember anything in the movie. So I could be misinterpreting you because of that. It has been a long long time since I watched it. But it is my experience that people use “believing in magic” as a pejorative way to describe Christianity. Or at least I’ve seen that before. But I could be wrong about your use of the phrase if it was referencing something in the movie that I am unaware of.
                   
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                  My point is simply that even if you don’t believe in God or miracles, you can still believe in living your life according to Christ’s teachings. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone and other maxims of the Christian faith are not null and void even if someone could prove that God doesn’t exist. The Judeo-Christian ethic is valid even without the power of miracles.
                   
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                    This x 10
                     
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                    Gotcha. I get what you are saying. You can make the decision to live by some of Christ’s teachings, but the precondition for that being a good and right decision is God creating us to live how Jesus taught us to live.

                    If we are just amoeba 1 billion point zero, nothing more than a bag of cells, why should we obey Jesus’ teachings?
                     
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                    So in other words, unless there is actually a god, there is no reason to live a kind and ethical life? I’d really be interested in why that is. Seems to me the existence of Hell would be the real motivator there. Be nice, or you’re going to hell!

                    BTW do you believe that God and evolution are mutually exclusive ideas?
                     
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                    I believe in micro evolution. Species evolve. Wings get longer. Beaks get shorter etc. but I do not believe in Macro-evolution, one species evolving into another. There is no fossil evidence for it. For example hippo's turning into whales or vice versa. Darwin labeled the missing link fossil evidence of arms twice as long as legs (apes) evolving to a 1:1 ratio
                    (humans). Darwin said if we didn't find the missing link his theory was mute. Well 150+ years later we're still waiting.

                    Do you believe every living species on earth evolved from that first single cell amoeba? Note: Possibly, maybe, could have, perhaps and given enough time anything can happen is not science.

                    Also note that it is a scientific fact that something can NOT come from nothing, blow up and become everything! Yes?
                     

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