The Role of Law Enforcement

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  1. cover2

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    They are the keys to quelling the violence that has become the focus of these protests, hijacked or otherwise. I understand that there maybe a lot of hamstringing going on at the hands of sympathetic mayors and governors, but it was always understood that the role of LE was to “protect and serve.” Not a coincidence that “protect” is listed first. I know there are a few bad cops, but I’m proud of what all the good ones do and they shouldn’t have to suffer for the transgressions of a few.

    I applaude the self control of the men and women I see in news clips standing erect while “protesters” throw bottles and rocks at them. However, at the first sign of aggression they should be sweeping the streets IMO. Asses and names; kicking and taking. This giving the protesters (and by proxy the rioters) space to vent probably looks good in a Spike Lee flick, but is useless in real life. I’m glad to see some clips of legitimate protesters turning the villains into the LE. Self-policing helps their cause.

    I don’t know a whole lot about Polk Co. Sheriff Grady Judd, but I can appreciate his hard line stance on keeping the thugs at bay in his community. Seems like it is that kind of resolve that is lacking in a lot of our leadership at this moment. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it takes not only guts, but also a firm belief and commitment to the sanctity of the profession. I hope that the LE nationwide can be allowed to do their job. Everybody will eventually suffer if they can’t.
     
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      Yep its a joke they have to sit there and take that or be fired by some lefty Police Chief or Sheriff. I have a friend that retired not too long ago from the local Sheriffs Dept and he says its hard to keep the better new guys due to how much of the public treats them now and this is in a more conservative area. Maybe the similar aged people acting like they are bad guys basically.

      Judd is a hard ass and I know about his stuff pretty good from my job years ago. The only thing I don't like about him is he purposely (unless he finally changed but it wouldn't surprise me if he hasn't) wouldn't put dash cams in his vehicles so the deputies could just lie about their late night stops being legal in Court. I remember there was some big pushback on that because some people showed what they were doing with their own car cameras but back then he still wouldn't budge. He is a big 2nd amendment guy but seems to not care much about stops violating the 4th amendment.
       
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        Meanwhile, in Tampa:


        But Polk county ain't having none of it:
         
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          I can’t imagine having to deal with some of the situations they’re put into and your every word and action/reaction being recorded. Not a job I could do as I’ve never had the temperament to deal with dumbasses. Certainly not 20-30 years ago.
          That said, I see way too many egomaniac types drawn to that profession...for obvious reasons. Personally, I’m still saddened that we did away with the fleeing felon law. THAT was a major deterrent IMO.
           
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              I agree with a lot of this. How it is now seems to result in a lot of people having the job that shouldn't because the ones with common sense don't want to deal with the BS and only stay a year or two and move on.
               
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                I know it’s cliche, but LE has about got to be as much of a calling as it is a profession. We’ve got our own school system police force and the five guys that make it up are great with the kids. They do a lot of intervention and work to build a lot of confidence, but they let the kids know that if they cross the line, they take care of business. I know every officer can’t be that type of guy, but they ought to feel like they can make a difference in a lot of lives instead of just rolling them up and taking them to jail (which has to be done when necessary).
                 
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                  The part of this that s crazy is anything this high profile calls for professionalism dialed to 11. Everything will be second, third and fourth guessed... The number of hot heads is astonishing (ok really the are a minuscule number amplified) talk about self inflicted wounds. Get a new job, you just damaged the profession.
                   
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                    You watched too much Adam 12... Courts ruled lonnnnng ago that LEO has NO duty to protect. :(
                     
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                      Be able to protect yourself or else.
                       
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                        God bless Sheriff Grady Judd.
                         
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                          I don’t get that from the Polk County Sheriff. But if that’s the case, traffic problems should be nonexistent and donut shops should be booming ;). And just for the record, I didn’t miss Maloy and Reed as they kept the streets safe :).
                           
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                            Was it just me, or at some point, did you realize that whenever they got a call, they were ALWAYS going in the wrong direction and had to make a dramatic U-turn?
                             
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                              It wasn’t just you! That was a highlight of every episode. When the dispatcher called out “One Adam Twelve, see the man...” we were fixing to see some real policing!
                               
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                                Those white nationalists are at it again in Tampa I see.
                                 
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                                  You didn’t see, but they never responded to a call in front of them. Only those behind them.
                                   
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                                    I responded behind your wife.
                                     
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                                        Part of the dramatic differences among jurisdictions in response to the violence is not only governors, mayors, and department command staffs, but also district attorneys. Here in Atlanta, agencies from outside Fulton County have been hesitant to provide certain types of assistance to the Atlanta PD because of the reputation of the Fulton County DA. There is no great confidence that he won't play to the crowd in a heartbeat and happily sacrifice a few law enforcement officers. As for APD itself, the guys I know have zero confidence on that front. Any guesses on how aggressive they feel like being?
                                         
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                                          Yep they already sacrificed a few in that area. My guess is after this a lot of these Soros financed DAs will refuse to prosecute a bunch of these rioters or at least plead it down to some joke level charge.
                                           

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