This is so unacceptable on IRS part

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  1. g8orbill

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    Tax Credits for Illegal Immigrants


    So, started by Bush but extended and enlarged by Obama.
     
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    They are all in on it. Trump wants to put an end to it. Off with his IMMORAL head.
     
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      How long would it take to pay off the deficit if we just stopped any and all funding, credits or any benefits that don't go to American citizens? My guess would be less than 5 years..
       
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      You want to fix this?...The Fair Tax!

      Now all my LIB haters will Tag this with Hate, Drunk...

      Drop all Income Tax, No Deductions, National Sales Tax, Don't tax items like: Medicine, Basic Foods, Housing under a certain amount...

      Pay the POOR directly.

      This picks up ALL people living in the country. Now everyone has skin in the game. The rich buy more so they pay more.

      You the individual control your Spending and Taxes
       
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      Sounds ok to me but remember most twits in the last 50 years have been programmed to believe that Government programs were put in place as a safety net to care for them....a chicken in every pot so to speak..
       
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      I wonder how anybody without a valid ss number can file any income tax return, unless they have the alternative number which illegals should not have. Another way to pay for the wall, eliminate all refunds to those without valid identification numbers.
       
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      Just one of many reasons why we are considered a land of milk and honey by the people south of the border. Hell stop making the payments and build the damn wall.
       
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      You could also Tax Money shipped to foreign countries.

      This with benefits cut will eliminate most illegals
       
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      It is possible to be a non-citizen and have a valid SSN. As long as you were legally in the US when you were issued the number, you are good to go. I don't believe numbers are taken away if one is ultimately deported.
       
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      From that article

      So, they get ITIN, not SSN.
       
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      Huh?
       
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      How many billion in Cali alone for assistance? Not to mention all of the tax revenue capture from illegals taking their "cash money, non taxed, and sending it back home, payroll revenue capture from companies properly paying better wages....how much money is lost on legal dealings? Don't kid yourself, stop all immigration for say the next 5 years and our sh!t here is pretty much fixed...
       
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      Yes but these are illegals, I could see a green card person or one on that visa that folks have, but these are illegals, no ss for them.
       
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      It would take every dollar of tax money paid in to pay off the debt in 5 years. Our deficit is going to average around 800 billion, so if we are paying 5 billion in these bogus credits, it would take 160 years to close that gap.

      Your point is valid imo. Refundable credits are a bane to my existence. There is so much fraud in this area I ran off over half of the clients in a tax practice I purchased years ago. The tax guy there would base his fee on how much refund he could get them. He was unlicensed. Since about 1/2 of 1 percent of returns ever get audited, he was playing audit roulette and if the client got smacked, he didn't care.
       
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      Many illegals have been here legally in the past and were either deported and snuck back in or left voluntarily, but could not get another visa and snuck back in. SSNs never expire.....
       
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        thanks for in info, I thought they got ISNs which should expire. Our tracking systems are very poor, typical of computer programs in the federal government. Another area for massive improvement.
         
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        It depends. Some can only qualify for ITINs, some SSNs. It's the Govt.! Don't try to make sense about it. As they used to say about Northern Ireland: if you're not confused, you don't understand the problem. (The SSA website goes in depth about all this stuff, if you want to dig further.)
         
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          I've heard numbers as high as over 50 billion in illegal assistance a YEAR in Cali.....That's not including legal cost, processing cost and such....there's a reason Trump wants to slow immigration and halt illegal immigration.
           

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