This looks really bad (Callaway news)
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- Feb 4, 2015
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here is UF's response to the claims of bias:
The University of Florida is prohibited to comment on the existence or substance of student disciplinary matters under state and federal law.
However, I can tell you that our student conduct process may be handled by a hearing officer, who could be a university employee or an outside professional, or by a committee of faculty and students.
Any hearing officer and all committee members are trained and vetted for their impartiality. A hearing officer or committee member would not be disqualified or lack objectivity simply because he or she had been a student athlete decades earlier or purchases athletic tickets as more than 90,000 people do each year.
The University of Florida is prohibited to comment on the existence or substance of student disciplinary matters under state and federal law.
However, I can tell you that our student conduct process may be handled by a hearing officer, who could be a university employee or an outside professional, or by a committee of faculty and students.
Any hearing officer and all committee members are trained and vetted for their impartiality. A hearing officer or committee member would not be disqualified or lack objectivity simply because he or she had been a student athlete decades earlier or purchases athletic tickets as more than 90,000 people do each year.
- Jun 14, 2014
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I have no contention with your legal brief. I just think the claimant did not think that way when she lodged
no claim of being raped. Her idea of rape would be like what our idea of rape is. Her story must have left no
purchase-point for her lawyers to hook any rape charge to.??
- Aug 31, 2014
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I believe you basically said the same thing that I said, perhaps more from your frame of reference. My intention was to explain that it really doesn't matter if criminal activity occurred according to law enforcement, from the university's point of view they are trying to ensure compliance with Title IX and ultimately ensuring the safe educational environment.
- Aug 25, 2014
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My response to your first post was really just to illustrate that we really don't know what she claimed happened and that for all we know, she may have claimed to be penetrated against her will...and that if such were true, then a rape kit would be useful. However, we don't know as of now what she her claims are regarding penetration, unwanted touching, etc. Maybe we'll find out if Huntley releases the documents.
- Jun 13, 2014
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There are many ways of looking at this. Maybe bring in a Judge from outside who is more likely to want to at least see some evidence to boot someone out of school. The problem with these hearings many times is you have these political leaning people making the decision and many times they will rule against someone with practically no evidence but an accusation. After reading some articles on these hearings many are a joke basically.
- Aug 25, 2014
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You're correct. Also, at the risk of sounding like a callous Dick which isn't my intent, who do we get for the hearing? A scUM grad? A 'Nole grad? How about a Bama, UGA, USF, Auburn grad, etc??? My point is that most everybody will have what appears to be a bias on the surface so it's not an easy position to be in. Maybe we shouldn't have chosen a UF grad that donated money to the program...but would Clune have complained if we hired a UF grad that had never given a penny to the sports program? I'd venture a guess that he would have. And let's keep the lawyer's donations in perspective; he gives something like $5-$10k per year. A tidy sum for the average Joe but this isn't like he was Ben Hill Griffin giving $100 million dollars. Again, I'm not trying to make light of the allegations but most anybody we chose would have some perceived bias.
- Aug 25, 2014
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So long as they aren't Nole grads nor grads of any of the schools I alluded to then yeah, bring 'em on. :)
- Jan 6, 2015
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The joke I want to insert has something to do with 3* adjudicator. But this isn't so much of a joking matter.
I agree this was a poor selection, but as GIG points out - who should we have selected? More to what's going thru my head, when was the selection made? We've had this open for what, 6-7 months? When was the guy selected and known by the plaintiff's lawyer...compared to this being an issue now? I don't know the process, so I have no idea when or how they select someone for a hearing like this. And why is the process taking this long?
- Aug 11, 2014
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Complainant never goes to the police? Complainant's attorneys never go to the police? Complainant's attorney is outraged that complainant's prior sexual activity has been included in hearing?
Something smells fishy about this whole case, especially given Treon transfers, says sorry, and is then absolved, yet Calloway is still on the hook.
My guess is that this all dies out. UF did their due-diligence, suspending the 2 whike collecting 1,000 pages of testamony including conflicting text/vmails.
After FSU fiasco, my bet is that they have this one covered.
Something smells fishy about this whole case, especially given Treon transfers, says sorry, and is then absolved, yet Calloway is still on the hook.
My guess is that this all dies out. UF did their due-diligence, suspending the 2 whike collecting 1,000 pages of testamony including conflicting text/vmails.
After FSU fiasco, my bet is that they have this one covered.
- Jun 12, 2014
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- Jun 24, 2014
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Completely disagree. If you think you are going to win on the merits of the case...why give the appearance of impropriety? It makes me think that the case against AC is bad.
- Sep 15, 2014
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Does this look suspect? Yes. Will UF get raked over the coals for this? Yes. But let's not even put this in the same category as FSU and Baylor. However I am still highly disappointed in this whole situation.
- Aug 25, 2014
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You disagree with my premise that most anybody selected has some sort of bias? You also disagree that Clune wouldn't have objected to a UF grad who didn't donate money to Gator athletics being selected as the judge in this hearing? By all means, tell me who should have been selected???
And just to bring you up to speed, this hearing wasn't "Alleged Victim vs. UF"...it was "Alleged Victim vs. Antonio Callaway". See my previous post for the explanation about that and why it matters..,doing so will also help educate you.
- Jun 24, 2014
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Seriously...you think he was a fair choice as an arbiter? Come on...
- Aug 25, 2014
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You didn't answer my questions.
- Jun 14, 2014
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This very slow timeline would seem to put more pressure on Calloway's end. ??
All along have the claimant & her attorney been capable of dragging this out ? If so have they done that ?
See, waiting all this time and now is she refusing to participate ? Will the case be decided without her being there?
What would be an okay "win" for this girl ? If Callaway is guilty, then he was guilty back in January. The facts of
this case should have been established 6-7 months back. ??
All along have the claimant & her attorney been capable of dragging this out ? If so have they done that ?
See, waiting all this time and now is she refusing to participate ? Will the case be decided without her being there?
What would be an okay "win" for this girl ? If Callaway is guilty, then he was guilty back in January. The facts of
this case should have been established 6-7 months back. ??
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1). I think we know that poor judgment was used in choice of arbitrator.
2) I don't think we know much else until and unless more is revealed.
2) I don't think we know much else until and unless more is revealed.
