Treon Harris suspended indefinitely - Accuser drops complaint

[PastyStoole]

I thought the press release was pretty darn good and paints the best possible picture for Harris. Was surprised about the "sloppy seconds" aspect, but hell, I'm old and conservative. If all this is true, I suspect we'll be losing a female Gator athlete sometime in the near future who may never live this whole episode down.

Huntley came off as fairly sleazy in my opinion. The press release was couched as some kind of "clarification" of what had been reported in the media. In fact, not much has been reported by the media of the incident. The "sloppy seconds" innuendo from him, among many other aspects of the release, was an obvious attempt to degrade the accuser. For all we know it was a makeout session.

 

[ATXGator]

Maybe Huntley Johnson should be our new Head Coach.

I thought we already determined that Law was Huntley Johnson...

 

[URGatorBait]

Originally posted by WobbleGator View Post

Maybe Huntley Johnson should be our new Head Coach.




I thought we already determined that Law was Huntley Johnson...

 

[ATXGator]

Huntley came off as fairly sleazy in my opinion. The press release was couched as some kind of "clarification" of what had been reported in the media. In fact, not much has been reported by the media of the incident. The "sloppy seconds" innuendo from him, among many other aspects of the release, was an obvious attempt to degrade the accuser. For all we know it was a makeout session.

I got the impression he was trying to set the record strait and defend his client in the court of public opinion. Treon could still be guilty even if the girl is with 10 men earlier and even if she was the agressor... once she says "no"... that's the end of it, but I think he was trying to show that Treon didn't just take some girl he didn't know who displayed no interest, barge into her room and assault her.

 

[Bullag8r]

Huntley came off as fairly sleazy in my opinion. The press release was couched as some kind of "clarification" of what had been reported in the media. In fact, not much has been reported by the media of the incident. The "sloppy seconds" innuendo from him, among many other aspects of the release, was an obvious attempt to degrade the accuser. For all we know it was a makeout session.

I disagree. He is defending his client against a very serious allegation that could result in going to prison. I thought his statement was rather polite given the subject matter. In our legal system the accuser does not presumptively occupy the high ground. Why is it unacceptable for an accused person to defend themselves in the court of public opinion?

 

[WobbleGator]

I thought we already determined that Law was Huntley Johnson...

Oh, well never mind then.

 

[PastyStoole]

I disagree. He is defending his client against a very serious allegation that could result in going to prison. I thought his statement was rather polite given the subject matter. In our legal system the accuser does not presumptively occupy the high ground. Why is it unacceptable for an accused person to defend themselves in the court of public opinion?

He's not defending his client's actions of that night, he's condemning hers. The only thing he's saying in defense Treon is that he's been very cooperative, which is entirely appropriate and relevant. Innuendo about the girl's sexuallity, as vague as it is, is really just intended as a character assassination, not as a defense of his client.

 

[ATXGator]

When do people think we will hear if Treon will be charged? The UPD said they want to talk to him one more time.. I would think that Treon would make himself avail as quickly as possible. I am hoping we hear something by end of day today, but I'm not sure if that would be a distraction to the team or not.

 

[Bullag8r]

He's not defending his client's actions of that night, he's condemning hers. The only thing he's saying in defense Treon is that he's been very cooperative, which is entirely appropriate and relevant. Innuendo about the girl's sexuallity, as vague as it is, is really just intended as a character assassination, not as a defense of his client.

Again, I disagree. Legal defense by definition posits an alternative theory that shifts blame from the accused. Treon's attorney explained an alternative version of the incident that raised questions about accuser. Let me ask, if you were falsely accused of a felony would you and/or your representative(s) maintain silence or communicate what really happened? Is it OK for the accuser to assassinate the character of the accused by making the accusation but it is not OK for the accused to defend themselves?

 

[PastyStoole]

I get your point, but she hasn't hired a lawyer to release a statement in order to impugn Harris' character. She may now, though, and this could very well backfire. I presume you'd be in favor of her hiring a lawyer and making negative statements about Harris' character as well, to now defend herself "in the court of public opinion," in which case it would most assuredly get ugly. If this happened to me I'd be pretty careful about what kind of battle I engaged in in the media and I'd avoid statements that were intended to merely smear the girls reputation. Harris and his attorney ought to be careful of what they ask for, as Winston found out, his attorney's efforts to prop up his character by smearing the alleged victim backfired and he's almost universally viewed as a scumbag by everyone outside of Tallahassee. I'd pretty much have my lawyer stick to specifics about my clean legal history, lack of this type of accusation in the past, exemplary deeds as a citizen, etc..

 

[soflagator]

He's not defending his client's actions of that night, he's condemning hers. The only thing he's saying in defense Treon is that he's been very cooperative, which is entirely appropriate and relevant. Innuendo about the girl's sexuallity, as vague as it is, is really just intended as a character assassination, not as a defense of his client.

While I agree that you might want to keep some of this talk close to the vest, he may also be giving UPD something to think about. I fully get that, if arrested, Treon would get his day in court. But, given the circumstances, why not let the world know how absurd such a notion it would be to even entertain the idea of him being wrong, much less charge him and drag this out. It's a little dangerous as you say, but the quick strike may be what gets this resolved. And IF this has been a false accusation, the fact that the girl and her counsel are seeing the facts being put on public display, may be the driving force to her opting to recant.

 

[GatorSkin]

I thought we already determined that Law was Huntley Johnson...

Well then maybe Law should be our new head coach

 

[URGatorBait]

I get your point, but she hasn't hired a lawyer to release a statement in order to impugn Harris' character. She may now, though, and this could very well backfire. I presume you'd be in favor of her hiring a lawyer and making negative statements about Harris' character as well, to now defend herself "in the court of public opinion," in which case it would most assuredly get ugly. If this happened to me I'd be pretty careful about what kind of battle I engaged in in the media and I'd avoid statements that were intended to merely smear the girls reputation. Harris and his attorney ought to be careful of what they ask for, as Winston found out, his attorney's efforts to prop up his character by smearing the alleged victim backfired and he's almost universally viewed as a scumbag by everyone outside of Tallahassee. I'd pretty much have my lawyer stick to specifics about my clean legal history, lack of this type of accusation in the past, exemplary deeds as a citizen, etc..

That's a very good argument. Unless every word Harris' lawyer said was true and has the evidence to back it up.
Otherwise I agree, you tread lightly in these situations, which makes me think that his lawyer indeed has enough evidence to support Harris. Time will tell.

 

[WobbleGator]

Well then maybe Law should be our new head coach

 

[ATXGator]

Well then maybe Law should be our new head coach

 

[ATXGator]

I get your point, but she hasn't hired a lawyer to release a statement in order to impugn Harris' character. She may now, though, and this could very well backfire. I presume you'd be in favor of her hiring a lawyer and making negative statements about Harris' character as well, to now defend herself "in the court of public opinion," in which case it would most assuredly get ugly. If this happened to me I'd be pretty careful about what kind of battle I engaged in in the media and I'd avoid statements that were intended to merely smear the girls reputation. Harris and his attorney ought to be careful of what they ask for, as Winston found out, his attorney's efforts to prop up his character by smearing the alleged victim backfired and he's almost universally viewed as a scumbag by everyone outside of Tallahassee. I'd pretty much have my lawyer stick to specifics about my clean legal history, lack of this type of accusation in the past, exemplary deeds as a citizen, etc..

To be fair... accusing somebody of sexual battery is impugning their character

 

[Munk]

His press release highlights why so many woman do not come forward when sexually assaulted. Rape cases almost always end up with the woman being called a whore. This one is no different. We have nothing until the police report is released.

I do think highlighting Harris as a good student with no criminal history would have served him better than smearing the alleged victim. But hey, that's why UF pays him the big bucks.

 

[oxrageous]

His press release highlights why so many woman do not come forward when sexually assaulted. Rape cases almost always end up with the woman being called a whore. This one is no different. We have nothing until the police report is released.

I do think highlighting Harris as a good student with no criminal history would have served him better than smearing the alleged victim. But hey, that's why UF pays him the big bucks.

While I get your point, where's the protection for the MEN that could have their entire lives destroyed over someone lying? It's a two-way street. A woman could make up or embellish a story that would end someone's career, or have them labeled a scumbag for life, or even incarcerated, in minutes. It's a terrible situation.

You want an example? Check out the Duke lacrosse rape case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_case

 

[williston_gator]

http://www.inallkindsofweather.com/blog/source-treon-harris-could-be-back-for-georgia-game.html

 

[Ray Finkle]

http://www.inallkindsofweather.com/blog/source-treon-harris-could-be-back-for-georgia-game.html

Seems legit