Carolina gator
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His parting gift pay would be $65 mil if fired after this season so that's not happening.Before FSU fires norvell
His parting gift pay would be $65 mil if fired after this season so that's not happening.Before FSU fires norvell
There needs to be a collective for all teams to stop with this crap. Make these contracts incentive based and move on, these massive golden parachutes give these clowns zero incentive to perform or really give a ****His parting gift pay would be $65 mil if fired after this season so that's not happening.
Remove him but don’t fire him. Make him stay and work for the $26 millionI attended one of BN's first appearances at the Lakeland Gator club and I loved what I heard. It was all about commitment, character, values and family. All together with a process to improve would lead good kids to become great men and victory to UF. It sounded great and after past thuggism's it worked for me. The highlight was the opening game and then...........
At this point UF needs to decide if they want to compete for championships or just focus on building quality young men. If it's the latter then we will never so much as sniff one of the coveted 12 positions in the playoff's. I don't think the administrators really want to get that deep in the new dirt to compete. If not then it's over and we are the Vanderbilt of Florida.
Selling Cokes at the ballgames?Remove him but don’t fire him. Make him stay and work for the $26 million
Taking what your saying, along with @GatorTruth133, Billy doesn't believe his own hot air. If you truly feel sorry for the kids because of all their missed opportunities and shame, you should not think Billy is a "great guy"I attended one of BN's first appearances at the Lakeland Gator club and I loved what I heard. It was all about commitment, character, values and family. All together with a process to improve would lead good kids to become great men and victory to UF. It sounded great and after past thuggism's it worked for me. The highlight was the opening game and then...........
At this point UF needs to decide if they want to compete for championships or just focus on building quality young men. If it's the latter then we will never so much as sniff one of the coveted 12 positions in the playoff's. I don't think the administrators really want to get that deep in the new dirt to compete. If not then it's over and we are the Vanderbilt of Florida.
We paid Chump to go away and he immediately started recruiting our recruits to Auburn. Let’s get Billy to be our recruiting coordinator, GM or some other job. We’re paying him $26 million, let’s get something out of this.Selling Cokes at the ballgames?
I gotta disagree, to an extent. We don't need a rebuild. That implies tearing it down, again. We need to revamp or reload. Or build off of what we have. Obviously there's gonna be some turnover with the coaching change but one of the keys will be what the next guy will be able to keep in place.You are not wrong for your feelings. But when it’s time, it’s time. We have been a very successful program that has floundered under the last four hires. Total rebuild is in order. To do it right will be massive and complicated, but it needs to get started asap.
We could have pushed that as a breach of contract, but we failed.We paid Chump to go away and he immediately started recruiting our recruits to Auburn.
We paid Chump to go away and he immediately started recruiting our recruits to Auburn. Let’s get Billy to be our recruiting coordinator, GM or some other job. We’re paying him $26 million, let’s get something out of this.
I wasn’t real clear, but the total rebuild I’m referring to is not facilities, etc. but rather the PEOPLE in charge of finding, hiring, and supporting the next coach and staff and providing a much higher level of oversight than has obviously been in place for some time now. This should begin with the AD and support staff and include the President/ Interim and proceed from there in my opinion.I gotta disagree, to an extent. We don't need a rebuild. That implies tearing it down, again. We need to revamp or reload. Or build off of what we have. Obviously there's gonna be some turnover with the coaching change but one of the keys will be what the next guy will be able to keep in place.
I'm not mesmerized by oration. I'm acknowledging actions. Again, people acting like I've said he shouldn't be fired have ignored my warnings and red flags since November 2021.I'm not really upset that anybody is mesmerized by Billy's elegant oration. I'm an actions guy so words don't sway me but I do envy those who have reached middle age and have never been lied to before.
Has this ever been done before at ANY school?We paid Chump to go away and he immediately started recruiting our recruits to Auburn. Let’s get Billy to be our recruiting coordinator, GM or some other job. We’re paying him $26 million, let’s get something out of this.
I hear you loud and clear and it wasn't a shot at anyone in particular. I just have 26 million reasons why I think Billy is not a great guyI'm not mesmerized by oration. I'm acknowledging actions. Again, people acting like I've said he shouldn't be fired have ignored my warnings and red flags since November 2021.
However, a guy willing to talk a high school sophomore with a single mom through an issue where his whole coaching staff is fired in the middle of the spring is not an awful human being. A guy who has his players doing an average of 1 8 hour community service day a month, providing hundreds, if not thousands of hours of community service for the needy along with he and his family participating as well is action, not oration. A guy who took the time to know a ton about a HS freshman beyond their first name before they ever spoke is not a bad, terrible, no good, evil person, and its not oration, its action.
Is that different than field performance? Hell yes. Did I doubt that he'd be good this year? Yes. Did I believe Billy believed he had a better team this year (just like last year no matter what anyone tries to say that he sounded differently than "They don't know what I know yet")? Yes, I think he believed it. If he is doing what he generally thinks what he is doing is best (it isn't), does being incorrect make him a bad guy? No. If he was intentionally sabotaging things, I'd agree. I'll put his blinders to his failures, like many people in all walks of life do, or intelligence as some have proposed, or whatever, before assuming malice unless someone shows evidence of such.
Was I not as harsh on the podcast going into the year and tried to be more positive? Guilty. But is it because I've never been lied to? No.
The fact many people can't seem to separate a person's coaching ability with whether they're a good person shouldn't shock me, but somehow does.
That blame lies squarely on the shoulders of our doofus AD.I hear you loud and clear and it wasn't a shot at anyone in particular. I just have 26 million reasons why I think Billy is not a great guy
If Billy had the world's worst employment lawyer he'd still have a clause that prohibits diminishment of duty as triggering the golden chute. No one including Billy and his advisors would sign a contract forcing you to be a janitor to get the $$$Remove him but don’t fire him. Make him stay and work for the $26 million
I don't want to take this to the political side but, I'm sick and tired of all this "Community Service " BS!I'm not mesmerized by oration. I'm acknowledging actions. Again, people acting like I've said he shouldn't be fired have ignored my warnings and red flags since November 2021.
However, a guy willing to talk a high school sophomore with a single mom through an issue where his whole coaching staff is fired in the middle of the spring is not an awful human being. A guy who has his players doing an average of 1 8 hour community service day a month, providing hundreds, if not thousands of hours of community service for the needy along with he and his family participating as well is action, not oration. A guy who took the time to know a ton about a HS freshman beyond their first name before they ever spoke is not a bad, terrible, no good, evil person, and its not oration, its action.
Is that different than field performance? Hell yes. Did I doubt that he'd be good this year? Yes. Did I believe Billy believed he had a better team this year (just like last year no matter what anyone tries to say that he sounded differently than "They don't know what I know yet")? Yes, I think he believed it. If he is doing what he generally thinks what he is doing is best (it isn't), does being incorrect make him a bad guy? No. If he was intentionally sabotaging things, I'd agree. I'll put his blinders to his failures, like many people in all walks of life do, or intelligence as some have proposed, or whatever, before assuming malice unless someone shows evidence of such.
Was I not as harsh on the podcast going into the year and tried to be more positive? Guilty. But is it because I've never been lied to? No.
The fact many people can't seem to separate a person's coaching ability with whether they're a good person shouldn't shock me, but somehow does.