UCF has a coach, quarterback and team on the rise. Should we go after Scott Frost?

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UCF has a coach, quarterback and team on the rise

https://theathletic.com/108952/2017/09/23/ucf-football-mckenzie-milton-scott-frost/


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Chris Vannini
Sep 24, 2017

UCF hadn’t played a game in the month of September, but it didn’t miss a step in its return, rolling to a 38-10 win at Maryland behind the kind of day coach Scott Frost expected when he recruited quarterback McKenzie Milton.

The Knights’ previous two games against Memphis and Georgia Tech were postponed and canceled, respectively, in wake of Hurricane Irma, so we hadn’t seen them since a 61-17 opening win against FIU on Aug. 31. Frost admitted this week he was curious how they would respond.

But the Knights picked up where they’d left off, rushing for 250 yards and three touchdowns on the ground, including two runs of more than 40 yards. The sophomore QB Milton was UCF’s leading passer and rusher. He went 18-for-30 for 178 yards and one touchdown in the air, paired with 94 yards on the ground on six rushes, featuring a 55-yard run.

Frost recruited Milton out of Hawaii as an Oregon assistant, but Frost and then-Oregon head coach Mark Helfrich offered Justin Herbert that year instead. Had the 5-foot-11 Miller been taller, Frost said, he likely would not have been available when Frost left the Ducks to become UCF’s head coach in December 2015. But knowing Milton was up for grabs, Frost reached out immediately after arriving in Orlando.

“He came to our Oregon camp two years in a row,” Frost told The All-American in the offseason. “I think if McKenzie had been 6-3, he would have been a top five quarterback in the country. That's the kind of player he was.”

Milton went through growing pains when injuries thrust him into the starting role a true freshman last year — throwing 10 touchdowns and seven interceptions. Frost said in the preseason that he needed Milton to consistently make the short throws, but he’s shown an explosive ability this year, completing three passes of more than 23 yards on Saturday, to go with his run.

Milton had 94 rushing yards on Saturday after gaining 158 all of last season. The UCF offense has four plays of at least 50 yards this season, all by McKenzie in the air or on the ground.

“He’s always just kind of had the intangibles,” Frost said. “He’s got confidence, he’s got the playmaking ability that’s rare. Last year, it was part him being 18 years old and part us not being good enough up front, but he had to improvise too much. This year he’s done a great job of playing within the offense, and then there’s been some times when he’s had to use his feet and then his arm and create things, and it’s been really impressive to watch him work.”

That was particularly the case in College Park, Md., on Saturday. Maryland’s opening win at Texas was big for D.J. Durkin’s program, but the Terps lost starting quarterback Tyyrell Pgrome in that one. Backup quarterback Kasim Hill started Saturday’s game, but only threw two passes with two runs before he was knocked out of the game on Maryland’s second drive with a right leg injury.

Third-string sophomore Max Bortenschlager was next man up, but the Terps never got much going with him. He finished 15-for-26 for 132 yards with one touchdown and two interceptions. Only two Maryland drives went longer than 35 yards, and they never got to within one score after UCF took a 14-3 lead in the second quarter.




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UCF’s defense held Maryland to 42 rushing yards on 37 carries (1.1 per rush), highlighted by five sacks. The Terps’ longest play of the day went 20 yards, and only two plays went for more than 15 yards. UCF also held Maryland to 2-for-13 on third down and returned an interception for a touchdown in the final minutes.

The win sets up a huge early-season showdown in the American Athletic Conference on Sept. 30, as Memphis visits Orlando for the rescheduled affair.

Frost, who grew up in Nebraska and played college football for the Huskers and Stanford, will be linked to the Nebraska job for the rest of the 2017 season — he said during the week the talk flatters him and he roots for the Huskers — but he’s got a 2-0 team right now. He took the Knights from winless to a bowl game in his first season last year. Now, he’s got a team that could win the AAC.
 

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Riley is gone. This will play out like texas and Herman. Texas had Tom Herman faxing papers over at halftime of his last game.
 

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UCF is in a crap conference. They SHOULD win 10-12 games EASILY every year but don't. Frost will be at Nebraska VERY soon...
 

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UCF is in a crap conference. They SHOULD win 10-12 games EASILY every year but don't. Frost will be at Nebraska VERY soon...

What does that even mean? That ANY coach that goes there should "EASILY" win 10 or more games/year? Like the other teams should just roll over? The other teams don't compete, recruit, have off-season workouts, etc? UCF recruits UCF talent......just like the rest of their conference recruits similar talent. You could stick the best RB in the SEC in that conference and if he's running behind an OL w/ 2-star talent, he likely rushes for more yards w/ his SEC team vs. SEC defenses than he does in the "crap conference". No team is guaranteed to win. Should FAU and FIU win 10+ games/year just because they are in Florida? Are you discounting the job that Frost has done as if any ole coach could do what he's done?
 

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The guy is a very good coach. I live 5 minutes from UCF and have been able to follow what he's been able to do in a very short time. I have spoken with people in the program and they feel they pulled off quite a coup getting this guy and I think they're right. Time will tell but one thing is for sure, he's brought a lot of juice to that program and kids really love him. Someone here was dismissing him because they were 6-7 last year so, you know, how could he be a good coach? But the facts are that the year before the team was 0-12 with no future. They were a terrible football team. Really terrible. He's done a hell of a job in a very short period of time and he is getting the attention of some pretty good recruits. And he knows how to use the guys he's got. I sure as hell wish he was ours.
 

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What does that even mean? That ANY coach that goes there should "EASILY" win 10 or more games/year? Like the other teams should just roll over? The other teams don't compete, recruit, have off-season workouts, etc? UCF recruits UCF talent......just like the rest of their conference recruits similar talent. You could stick the best RB in the SEC in that conference and if he's running behind an OL w/ 2-star talent, he likely rushes for more yards w/ his SEC team vs. SEC defenses than he does in the "crap conference". No team is guaranteed to win. Should FAU and FIU win 10+ games/year just because they are in Florida? Are you discounting the job that Frost has done as if any ole coach could do what he's done?

Honestly UCF, USF talent from their prospective areas are better than the talent than any other teams in the AAC. ECU, Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, Memphis, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, and Wichita State. Outside of Houston and possibly SMU what schools in that conference have the natural talent region that UCF and USF have. Yeah they get UF and FSU's leftovers, but those are pretty damn good players in that conference.
 

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Honestly UCF, USF talent from their prospective areas are better than the talent than any other teams in the AAC. ECU, Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, Memphis, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, and Wichita State. Outside of Houston and possibly SMU what schools in that conference have the natural talent region that UCF and USF have. Yeah they get UF and FSU's leftovers, but those are pretty damn good players in that conference.

In understand where you're coming from....but UCF isn't getting UF/FSU leftover's....those go to Ole Miss, Miss State, and other P5 schools. UCF/USF compete w/ ACC type schools (i.e. USF may be a finalist for a Florida HS kid that is down to Pitt, USF, Wake Forest, and UCF). And, believe it or not, there's a lot of good HS football in PA, Ohio, Michigan, Maryland, Indiana, etc....and the population base is pretty big and much closer together (roughly a 4 to 6 hour drive). So Cincinnati & Temple can pull in talent (as seen by their recent past successes - 3 Temple coaches have left recently for bigger P5 jobs). ECU is in a great recruiting area, bordering Georgia & VA. They get their fair share of kids (Lincoln Riley had that offense rolling). My point was (and is) that ANY coach can't just show up at a UCF and win. Just like ANY coach can't come to UF and win big (see Ron Zook, Will Muschamp, and the current staff). The teams UCF plays are designed to compete w/ teams in their conference. That's the goal of most of these programs. Occasionally they get the right compilation of talent and you'll see a team like the current USF team, or a Boise, or a Houston (other Group of Five schools). But for the most part, these programs are all similar and any ole coach isn't just going to show up and win 10-12 games/year (as was suggested by Boss).
 

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In understand where you're coming from....but UCF isn't getting UF/FSU leftover's....those go to Ole Miss, Miss State, and other P5 schools. UCF/USF compete w/ ACC type schools (i.e. USF may be a finalist for a Florida HS kid that is down to Pitt, USF, Wake Forest, and UCF). And, believe it or not, there's a lot of good HS football in PA, Ohio, Michigan, Maryland, Indiana, etc....and the population base is pretty big and much closer together (roughly a 4 to 6 hour drive). So Cincinnati & Temple can pull in talent (as seen by their recent past successes - 3 Temple coaches have left recently for bigger P5 jobs). ECU is in a great recruiting area, bordering Georgia & VA. They get their fair share of kids (Lincoln Riley had that offense rolling). My point was (and is) that ANY coach can't just show up at a UCF and win. Just like ANY coach can't come to UF and win big (see Ron Zook, Will Muschamp, and the current staff). The teams UCF plays are designed to compete w/ teams in their conference. That's the goal of most of these programs. Occasionally they get the right compilation of talent and you'll see a team like the current USF team, or a Boise, or a Houston (other Group of Five schools). But for the most part, these programs are all similar and any ole coach isn't just going to show up and win 10-12 games/year (as was suggested by Boss).

I'm not saying any coach can show up, but it's easier to show up at USF and UCF and win the AAC. Just like it takes a complete failure to show up at UF and do what the last two staffs have done. UF is a talent rich area, LSU, Texas, USC all in talent rich areas that you should being tripping over blue chip talent. Kids that are not good enough to for UF and FSU will give USF and UCF a look especially if they do not want to go north. It's not a bad option. But when you look at the regions that the other schools recruit in, lower talent base, more competition in state/region for in house talent, and they are lower teir schools of their state. ECU does back up against VA and GA, but also competes with Georgia Tech, UGA, VaTech, UV, USCe, Clemson, North Carolina, North Carolina State, etc... they might be the 8th/9th best school in their talent region. USF/UCF compete against UF, FSU, ScUM, Jacksonville U, FIU, FAU, University of Tampa, Valadosta U (?)... they are the 3rd or 4th school in their inhouse talent region. Now other schools poach, but most those schools that are poaching are poaching the talent USF/UCF are getting anyway.
 

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Both of those things will happen anyway.
Im just trying to wrap my head around the whole we "have to keep Butters so we can land Corral then fire him and hire one of the spread option coaches" mindset.
 

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Going to Nebraska would be a mistake.

UCF > Nebraska.

Maybe but that would be their SOS or Harbaugh. I can see him going to NU next year. They fired the AD for a reason. Frost will be a hot commodity. NU will have the inside track to a really good head coach.

IMHO, it's a done deal.
 
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