USMCA: U.S. and Canada Reach Basis of Deal to Replace NAFTA Hours Before U.S.-Mexico Deadline

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    I’m just hoping reunification takes place.
     
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    This is why I can't take you seriously. The "let's dangle economic development as an incentive to better relations" has been tried before. No less than 3 times in the last 30 years, actually. It's failed every time.

    But I guess you're like the Obama "Messiah" types who believed that playing nice with your enemies and wooing them with Western-style capitalism with a Starbucks on every corner will get them to drop their hostility and see reason. Obama was naive, his supporters even moreso...what's your excuse?
     
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    Truthfully, I'm not even sure that South Korea wants it, deep down. German reunification cost trillions and East Germany still lags behind to this day. East Germany was at least somewhat of a middle class country and had a decent economy for a communist country. The cost of North Korean reunification would easily bankrupt South Korea with as backwards as their economy is.
     
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    Exactly why I want it. The Koreans are eating our lunch economically.

    My Korean friend still wants it very much but she’s in the older generation (60). Have not had deep conversations with younger Koreans. Just technical/technology question and philosophy.
     
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      You apple fan boys hate samsung so much you want the whole country to fail.
      shameful :shakehead:

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        What if you hate Apple and Samsung?
         
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          ...Nokia?

          I mean, there's Huawei too if you're cool with China spying on you on a more intimate level.
           
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          ready to allow international inspectors into a key nuclear testing site

          Imagine how good this might be going if Trump only had a plan.
           
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            Imagine if people actually understood the realities of intl diplomacy and why you telegraph what you're doing via official channels.

            Even if it works out for us in this instance (and I hope it does); the reality is that the world is a safer place when people clarify their intentions and policy via diplomatic channels. Taking shortcuts and doing things off the cuff only increases the probability of your actions being misinterpreted. Wars begin that way.

            Let me illustrate this plainly: North Korea allows inspectors to visit a site they're telling us is shut down. A good thing if and when it happens, no question. But what happens if they're cheating yet again and trying to buy time to perfect their missiles and their nukes? Does Trump just shrug it off? Does he threaten them via Twitter and insult them? Does he order a "bloody nose" air strike? No one knows. And--most importantly--North Korea doesn't know. China doesn't know; Russia doesn't know. Everyone is guessing. NOT a good thing when it comes with nuclear weapons on the table between a coddled and sheltered guy who's been spoon-fed his entire life with bullchit about how he's a living god to his brainwashed people...and on the other end a rash and impulsive US President who doesn't suffer slights.
             
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              The Professor Pussy of Trump’s foreign policy

              It’s amazing how much this thread means to you.
               
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                I’m flying with a Korean guy this week. He grew up there, moved to Chile with his family when he was younger, then moved to the states when he was in high school. His whole family, including those still in Korea, is stoked at what is happening now. I told him none of it means anything because Trump grabbed a pussy. He just laughed.
                 
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                  I do have a Moto.
                   
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                  No offense, but being a tough guy who is seen by some to be a warmonger and slightly unhinged, ie they way the left and leftist controlled media portray Trump or Reagan, is far superior for negotiation purposes to being a vagina known for folding to any and every demand, such as Carter and Obama.

                  Why would anyone capitulate to Carter or Obama, because they are soft? It never happens.

                  You negotiate from a position of strength.
                   
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