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  1. diehardg8r

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    I guess those posters are waiting for talking points. Surprised they haven't been told what to say by now.
     
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    Hasn't everyone been taught to say "thoughts and prayers" when something like this happens?

    Seriously, there's nothing else to say. The Second Amendment preserves the right to bear arms, and unfortunate incidents like this will continue to happen to protect that right.

    We all just have to live with it.
     
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      You're a tool, as "always" :grin:
       
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        Perhaps if the building hadn’t been a gun-free zone, an armed citizen might have prevented this tragedy.
         
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        Most of these mass shootings take place in gun free zones.
         
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        So the solution is more guns. Got it. It’s always the solution.

        At least I’m realistic in seeing this as a necessary, although sobering byproduct of a free, armed society.

        He obtained his firearms legally (as far as we are aware of to date). He walked into a public building that had limited or lax security. He shot more than ten people dead. People that won’t go home to their family,

        That’s the price we pay. If was want to eliminate gun-free zones, that seems like a logical next step. Nothing has worked previously. Worth a try. The only thing that seems to be offered up as a solution is access to other firearms so some other law-abiding citizens might have a chance. Maybe.

        Gun control isn’t the answer. Never has been. Never will be.
         
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          Glad to see you’re finally getting it.
           
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          And you as usual have no suggestions. Again, who’s being the realistic one here? Are you disagreeing with my statement?

          Politicians offer platitudes. I don’t see a single Republican politician at the national level advocating for the expansion of firearms. No elimination of gun-free zones.

          If that’s the solution, let’s do mandatory firearm training in school. It’s worth a shot.

          Again, let’s try something. I’m willing to buy in, are you?
           
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            Correct.

            Gun control isn't the answer, it is the problem. Every liberal shythole with extreme gun control is a death and crime pit.
             
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              Yep. Getting it. That’s what I’m doing.

              I’m willing to try any solution. Let’s see who has the balls to actually try something other than “thoughts and prayers”..

              Not many will. Especially at the national level. No one will put their head on the block to try something different.
               
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              Yep. I agree.

              Let’s see who has the balls to actually advocate for the elimination of gun-free zones at the national level. No schools. No courthouses. No public buildings. It’s the only way to be sure that we give that policy a fair shake of working. Because the alternative shue hasn’t.

              Not holding my breath. Won’t come out of one persons mouth.
               
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                Obviously, courthouses have secure prisoner areas and numerous armed coordimated security. Not too mamy shootings inside courthouses.

                Public events are often similiar.

                Many states are already already allowing vwts, ex cops, trained staff or volunteers to privide security. Its the right step to take. A school should have at least the security of a tiny credit union or even a convenience store, especially with our Islamist friemds promising Beslans on our shores and students going wacko frequently.

                The CCW crime rate is so incredibly low, lower than mil or ex mil for sure and as low as police officers (lower than blue city police), that there is almost zero risk with them anyway. Across the spectrum they might even be better trained.

                You lefty nitwits swore putting armed cops (local cops included not just feds) on airplanes and arming some pilots would surely have planes falling from the sky due to bullets flying everywhere, but you were wrong as usual.

                Even the threat of armed people on the plane has pushed Islamists to other types of soft target attacks in other gunfree zones.

                Have you even managed to notice these things are almost ALWAYS in gunfree zones? Is that the slightest clue for you?

                There is a reason you lefties arent in military, law enforcement, security and protectiion. You feel, not think.
                 
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                  More guns? How do you come up with that?
                   
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                    Just thinking back in time I remember buying guns at the local sporting goods store in the 70s without even a background check. I have no idea when background checks started 80s or 90s I would guess. That said outside of the Texas tower shooting and a post office shooting I can't remember a mass shooting from back in those days. If anybody thinks a lack of gun control is the problem think again.
                     
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                      I've never owned a gun. Probly never will. But, then again, I would not be a survivor in a pop-up shooting.
                      Had a friend who was very protective of family and all he properties he had earned - admirable person. He would take me along to "gun shows" = "gun sales". At one show, he said something that I visually checked out to be so true. Made me laugh. I looked around and saw folding 6-ft tables, multi-guns displayed out, and wads of cash in open cigar boxes. What he said: "You know, I don't think there's ever been an armed robbery at one of these shows?" :cool: Certainly not a "gun-free zone".
                       
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                      he, or she, is not. Just mockery.
                       
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                      Because doing so with you is a complete waste of time.
                      You fake an open mindedness when you are anything but.
                      Your clear mockery is incredibly transparent.
                       
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                      Because he/she is not serious.

                      Enjoy chasing your tail with that one.
                       
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                      And I was mocking right back. ;)
                       
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                        damn it :headslap:
                         

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