What is immoral about a wall?

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    I'll pass on law's sloppy seconds.
     
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    :lmao2: you know he has been up late lately. Almost pacific time.
     
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      You really want to go down that road with Govt spending?
       
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        Passive security at its finest, second only to land mines.
         
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        There's a wall around Heaven, but Hell has an open border.
         
        #13 Okeechobee Joe, Jan 7, 2019
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          Truthfully, no: there are other more cost-effective ways to curb illegal immigration. Better enforcement of existing laws, EVerify, sensors at the border, etc.

          The problem comes when Democrats aren't interested in enforcing immigration laws and reforming the judicial system to streamline the deportation process is a non-starter because of entrenched Democratic opposition in both the legislature and judiciary.

          A wall is passive security that deters people from trying. There will be ways around it, of course, but it will greatly reduce the flood of people making the crossing into a trickle. Reducing the backlog on our immigration courts and saving us the expense of housing and feeding illegal immigrants while their case is going through the motions. All of those things cost money--money that the US govt could be saving with a better system in place.

          IF Democrats committed to reforming the court system and streamlining deportations, then a wall would be completely unnecessary. But they don't.
           
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            The wall also has a symbolic function that says the United States is serious about protecting its southern border.
             
            #15 Okeechobee Joe, Jan 7, 2019
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              Perhaps Nancy should Google "Nehemiah".
               
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              We have Gated Communities

              Gates around our schools

              Gates around the White House

              Gates around Military Bases

              Gates around the Vatican

              Are those all immoral?
               
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                Why doesn't Nancy Pelosi knock down the wall around her house and leave her doors open and invite homeless people in?

                I'm sick of limousine liberals lecturing me on morality.
                 
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                  It also has the symbolic function of saying "the US doesn't like the kind of immigrants that approach our southern border."
                   
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                    It isn't symbolic at all ... it is fact. The southern immigration trend is to circumvent our legal process to gain entry into the US. That has nothing to do with ethnicity and everything to do with facts.

                    I am all about this country being open to immigration. But I am also all about the immigrants following our laws. We either can go about this one way or another, fix the problem or treat the symptoms. I imagine the wall is the easiest way to help minimize the strain of bodies actively monitoring the border and can automate miles upon miles of the monitoring and is more or less treating symptoms. Before anyone talks about tunnels and stuff like that ... you better believe that the wall would be built with the technology we have used in Afghanistan that any sort of digging and stuff like that would instantly be detected.

                    The other way to go about fixing this is to actually address the problem instead of the symptoms. But that would require us to get really involved with our neighbors to the South to help them clean up their problems (as well as some of the ones we created back in the 60s to present).
                     

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